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Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?



On 12/29/2014 1:22 AM, Ric Moore wrote:
> On 12/28/2014 10:58 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> On 12/28/2014 5:54 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>>> On Sunday 28 December 2014 00:20:20 Celejar wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 14:02:52 -0500
>>>>
>>>> Jerry Stuckle <stucklejerry@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 12/11/2014 1:23 PM, Brian wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu 11 Dec 2014 at 12:11:26 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>>>> I often give presentations with my notebook.  If I'm lucky, I get
>>>>>>> 10-15 minutes to set up.  If I'm not, less than 5 minutes (i.e.
>>>>>>> another presenter ahead of me).  I use Linux whenever possible, but
>>>>>>> since my time slot is limited, I can't wait for fsck to complete.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your type of situation is well understood and there is sympathy
>>>>>> for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I appreciate that - but unfortunately, sympathy doesn't solve the
>>>>> problem
>>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> Someone may have suggested this, and I know it doesn't really solve the
>>>> core problem, but perhaps consider suspending (to disk or ram) instead
>>>> of shutting down when you have a presentation scheduled?
>>>
>>> Again, that is a way round the problem not a solution to it.
>>>
>>> A facility that was available no longer is.  Whether it should be, is an
>>> entirely different question.
>>>
>>> Lisi
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Lisi,
>>
>> While I agree it's only a way around a problem and not a solution, I do
>> appreciate people trying to help out.
>>
>> And while I would prefer a solution, it looks like that's not going to
>> happen.  So, unfortunately, after many years as a Debian user, I'm
>> looking at other options.  My clients are looking, also, although not
>> every one has made the decision to switch yet.
> 
> What's wrong with sticking with Wheezy for the next couple of years?? I
> haven't had my ext4 file system want to fsck in eons. Several times I
> have MADE it do a check on the next boot, just to check, and a Tbyte of
> storage was fscked in about 10-15 seconds.
>

Not as easy as you think.  I write device drivers; for instance, one of
my customers manufacturers microprocessor-based systems.  Right now they
are using Debian, but are now looking for another distro.  It's not
something they do lightly or quickly; even now they may not have time
before service is dropped for Wheezy.  And I need to be running the same
software they are.

> Besides, I never did buy that bit about doing a complete dist-upgrade to
> Jessie (testing!) and then expecting to do a presentation to clients
> without a complete shakedown. I'd shoot myself first. I know you know
> better.
>

Where did I ever say I wouldn't do a complete shakedown?  But this is
the type of bug which can bite you weeks or months after the install.
It doesn't occur minutes, hours or even days later.  And Murphy says it
will happen at the worst possible time.

> Can we not let this pitiful excuse for a thread JUST DIE?? :/ Ric
> 

This is a Debian User list.  Why don't you want bugs which affect Debian
users discussed here?  And that's what I have seen here - at least until
you started complaining about the thread.

Jerry


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