Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd
On 2 December 2014 at 19:22, Aaron Toponce <aaron.toponce@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 02, 2014 at 09:40:20PM +0100, Märk Owen wrote:
>> It's a waste. They shouldn't have left. I'm pretty neutral about
>> systemd as I'm only an end user but I disklike having it forced upon me
>> this way.
>
> # apt-get install upstart
> # apt-get install sysvinit-core
> # apt-get install openrc
I doubt that this will work in the near future (jessie +1).
Debian/Devuan WILL NEED an `udev` alternative to keep `sysinit-core` working.
Sooner or later, there will be no more `sysvinit-core`, `upstart` or
whatever, because `systemd` guys engulfed `udev` and they are change
it to make sure it will only work with systemd = PID1, this sucks,
_this is extortion_ (kind of). Everybody that falls for that, will
regret.
Devuan will need something like `eudev` to succeed.
It is freaking unbelievable that Debian is now following RedHat after
all we achieved during those ~two decades, by ourselves.
I'm not against `systemd` itself, I'm against the lack of freedom to
choose whatever init I need/want. Systemd is here, fine, but as an
option ONLY. Well, no.
Jessie isn't Debian.
Devuan IS (will be) what we know about Debian! Waiting to see Joel
joining Devuan... lol
Cheers!
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