Re: brasero requires gvfs

[lee <lee@yun.yagibdah.de>]

Martin Read <zen75502@zen.co.uk> writes:

> On 08/09/14 15:51, lee wrote:
>> If the problem is so easy to solve as you describe, i. e. by compiling
>> software appropriately, it boils down to that Debian would have to have
>> different versions of packages, compiled with appropriate options, which
>> are picked from depending on which init system the user decides to use.
>
> [...]
>
> It's a tricky question, with no easy answers.

Debian has decided to support multiple init systems.  How they solve the
problems involved is another question, though you pointed out a possible
solution.

>> In any case, simply trying to avoid systemd wouldn't do anything to fix
>> the problem.  It is the developers of systemd and the makers of
>> distributions who need to wake up and to do something about it, and they
>> are the ones who appear to steadfastly remain ignorant.
>
> Real people think systemd provides real solutions to real problems
> that they have on their real systems. This means that "Here's how to
> solve the problems that systemd solved for you *more easily and more
> effectively* without using any systemd components" is a more
> compelling argument against systemd than suggesting that everyone who
> supports systemd is stuevilpid.

Problems like?

You cannot expect that when solution A is being replaced with solution
B, people should not be allowed to point out disadvantages and
weaknesses of solution B and not suggest to improve solution B by fixing
its issues.  You can also not expect that everyone who spots an issue
solution B has provide a fix.

This is especially true when whatever fix you might suggest or whatever
contribution to some improvement you might be willing to make or even
already have made is either denied or ignored.  Why would anyone bother
to waste their time with futile attempts to improve something under such
conditions?

And before you argue that contributions are welcome:  They are not.

You're welcome to make a test:  Fix the issues of systemd and tell ppl
about it.  You will find that you will be either ignored, or that your
fixes will be denied.


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