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Re: Four people decided the fate of debian with systemd. Bad faith likely



On Sat, Mar 01, 2014 at 11:53:28PM -0600, yaro@marupa.net wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 10:55 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> 
> > And then there's NSA (and the companies they outsource to) - they *do*
> > have an agenda that would be furthered by creating divisions and
> > uncertainty in Debian. They've made large investments in software hooked
> > to the existing init system - and while they'll have to retool to use
> > systemd it doesn't mean they have the same access required to replace
> > existing malware installations, additionally they would probably enjoy
> > seeing less people use Debian.
> > 
> 
> The trouble is, how effectively can the NSA hook itself into open source 
> software? How easily could they get backdoors into something without upstream 
> noticing? Might be effective getting hooks into something downstream, but I 
> don't see the NSA getting anything into something upstream without someone 
> noticing, since patches are generally reviewed before integration.
> 
> To sum up my thought on that, the NSA needs cooperation from someone OUTSIDE 
> the NSA to get their hooks in.

What! You mean that they want someone to "act" like Edward Snowdon?


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