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Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

On 3 December 2014 at 19:18, Märk Owen <markowen2206@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 21:50:05 +0100
> maderios <maderios@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 12/03/2014 08:37 PM, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote:
>> > Jessie isn't Debian.
>> >
>> > Devuan IS (will be) what we know about Debian! Waiting to see Joel
>> > joining Devuan... lol
>> >
>> I've no problem with systemd (Sid), it works fine). I dont understand
>> why some people complain about systemd.
>> Devuan is not Mint or Ubuntu, I think it has no future and everyone
>> will forget that systemd is new...
> What about the people who will want to use another init system in
> Debian then? I mean, Linux is supposed to be about choice, right?
> Is that still the case here? That's the true question in this debate.

BTW, I just mentioned a valid example:

I'm using `GRSecurity` with Debian in prod and it doesn't work with `systemd`.

I NEED `sysvinit-core` (or upstart) and there is no plans to deploy
`systemd` at my company's public data center. Since it [systemd]
doesn't work here.

If `systemd` gets fixed (to work with `GRSecurity`), then, I'll give
it a second try. Otherwise, I'll need to move to Devuan...

Lennart do not care about that:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65575 - How bad is that?

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