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Re: XDG Standard is not evil (was: Re: Why focus on systemd?)




On 11/26/2014 6:04 PM, Serge wrote:
Those XDG standards were created by "X Desktop Group" only to define unified directories for COMMON files of multiple X desktop environments, not for some rogue applications to hide their own private files. Each of files placed in those directories is extensively documented by other XDG standards. Later some people started to abuse those directories and put there files, that never supposed to be there. Those people don't really think about standards or unification. Usually they just enable displaying hidden files in their file manager, see a lot of dotfiles in a home directory and think that "this is wrong". They start searching how to "fix" this, find xdg basedir-spec, and use it as an excuse for moving ~/.appname files, to ~/.config/appname, or worse, split them among .config, .local, .cache... They don't think about /etc/xdg, they don't read FHS or other XDG standards, they don't care about people who have to do 2-4 times more work to find and migrate settings of selected application to another machine, they just don't want to see dotfiles. But don't blame XDG standard for that, blame people abusing it to reduce the number of dotfiles in their home directory. [1] https://lists.launchpad.net/unity-design/msg02114.html

Are you saying you think it's a bad thing that .config files got moved in to a .config directory instead of multiple other locations?

The /etc/xdg location would be for the defaults, not the user specific stuff. Looking at /etc/xdg it does appear it could be used more.

It's not 2010 anymore so specs are adhered to better than they were when https://lists.launchpad.net/unity-design/msg02114.html was posted, at least for the user specific stuff, .config, .local, etc....

Later, Seeker


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