Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 25 Oct 2014 11:14:24 -0500 golinux@riseup.net napísal: > Would appreciate comments on this observation: > > "Look at the source code (while you're at it, note who are the > upstream maintainers of util-linux). Even they (so far) allow > compilation without systemd. It is Debian who are introducing systemd > dependencies even where it is actually optional in the upstream > source." > > If upstream is allowing choice, why is Debian cutting it off? Maybe > I'm missing something . . . > I am not systemd fan, but i understand this dependency as Debian's property. I see it in many other packages (not systemd related) too and i was not very take care about it. But in the last year the count of my installed packages rapidly grows - not by growing the count of installed software, but due growing the dependencies and split source packages to more small binary packages. The count grows from cca 2100 to near 3000 packages. IMO, and i understand it as the pay for a big number of supported architectures. But thanks to opensource, it is relative simple task to rebuild packages by self and because i don't want the systemd in my machine at all, i start this process and i am mostly success. I was success with these packages (mix binary and source names) yet: + util-linux + policykit + udisks2 + dbus + pulseaudio + uuid-runtime + php5 With the gvfs I was only partially success, it hangs on tests in i386 pbuilder's chroot (i have installed some i386 packages). For now only the cups left to do. It seems as OK, but i afraid, if removing the systemd at all will not cause another problems... By this yes, removing the systemd dependency is relative simple task and anyone which have some basic knowledge about debian packaging can be success with it - by download sources via APT, then look into debian directory to the control, rules and *.install files and remove/change the systemd stuff. IMO there can be two versions of these packages in the repositories, one which depends on systemd and one which don't depends on it, but i afraid, that there will be response: "not enough resources". regards -- s pozdravom Slavko http://slavino.sk Týmto emailom NEvyjadrujem súhlas so zaradením do akéhokoľvek zoznamu na posielanie akýchkoľvek dodatočných informácií o Vašich produktoch!
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