On 22/10/14 08:37, Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis wrote:
What details do you think are neccecary ? Just grab a DI-b2 img, install xfce or lxde ( with the menu or with desktop= .... doesn't matter ) and then try to remove *all* the systemd utilities / libraries etc.
dbus-daemon is linked against libsystemd in Debian jessie. That's not going to change at this point.
The Debian package of xfconf (XFCE's configuration mechanism) depends on the package 'dbus-x11', which depends on the package 'dbus' (the one that contains dbus-daemon), implying that it requires a working dbus-daemon for correct operation.
Looking at the upstream website for XFCE, I see that xfconf lists dbus as a *non-optional* dependency.
(This is leaving aside the whole matter of one of the programs in the essential package 'bsdutils' now being linked against libsystemd as a result of a perfectly reasonable decision.)