Re: Keep using Debian without GNOME and SystemD
On Wednesday, October 22, 2014 5:30:06 PM UTC+5:30, Jochen Spieker wrote:
> Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis:
> > after spending two days trying unsuccesfuly to have a usable Jessie
> > with one of the defaults DE and with no systemd utilities, i decided
> > the following. In the companie's pc's i support, i'll continue with
> > Wheezy and if there is no a clear path to Jessie without a trace of
> > systemd until Wheezy's support lifetime then bye - bye Debian.
> Good luck finding *any* distro with a current Gnome that does not depend
> on systemd.
> I really don't get why Debian receives so much hate in this discussion.
> Upstream software depending on systemd is not Debian's choice.
I guess because Debian spokespersons [whatever that may mean :-) ]
are not clear enough to say that the problem is more gnome than systemd.
All that debian has to say officially is (something like):
- If you want gnome you get systemd. Not ideal but currently cant be helped.
[Alternatives to gnome are x,y,z...]
- If you dont take gnome then debian guarantees init-system-independence; to wit:
Take any one of systemd, upstart, sysv, (or others?) and everything should work
If not its a bug, please file a report and debian will try to close it.
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