Hi all, For those of you using Claws-Mail, you can keep it systemd-free into the foreseeable future by disabling dbus, like this: ./configure --disable-dbus I've compiled Claws_Mail from source on Debian. It's fairly easy to do, it can exist in tandem with the existing Claws-Mail (obviously rename the executables), and it works. Bang, another 0d program! SteveT Steve Litt * http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance