Re: preseeding question (yes, re. systemd / sysvinit-core)

[Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net>]

Thanks Brian.

See follow-up question embedded below.

Brian wrote:
> On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 12:29:23 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>
> > any thoughts re. conflicts between what's in, say
> >
> > tasksel tasksel/first standard, web-server
> > and
> > d-i pkgsel/include string sysvinit-core systemd-shim
> I don't believe there are any. I think what happens is that standard
> and web-server get installed first (after any updates are done). The
> second command is then carried out.
>
> > If I understand the installer, tasksel, the definition of the
> > "standard" task description
> > ------
> > Task: standard
> > Section: user
> > Description: standard system utilities
> >   This task sets up a basic user environment, providing a reasonably
> >   small selection of services and tools usable on the command line.
> > Packages: standard
> > Test-new-install: mark skip
> > -------
> > properly, then the line "tasksel tasksel/first standard, web-server"
> > is going to install all packages with priority "standard."
> Ok.
>
> > Which leads to a couple of questions:
> >
> > 1. Since the priorities for sysvinit and sysvinit-core are
> > sysvinit:admin/optional
> > sysvinit-core:admin/extra
> >
> > and I assume that the priority for systemd is set to standard, does the installer do:
> The priority of systemd is 'important'.
>
> > a. install systemd as part of the tasksel phase, the uninstall systemd
> > and install sysvinit when it hits the pkgsel step, or,
> systemd-sysv is installed as part of installing the base system. systemd
> is there when tasksel is called.

So where in base system is systemd installed?

This is the list of packages in base (from the source for the jessie 
version of debian-installer/build/pkg-lists/base as of yesterday):
busybox-udeb
anna
archdetect
cdebconf-udeb
cdebconf-priority
di-utils
di-utils-reboot
di-utils-shell
libdebconfclient0-udeb
libdebian-installer4-udeb
libnss-dns-udeb
lowmemcheck
main-menu
rootskel
udpkg
rescue-check
env-preseed
pciutils-udeb

#include "udev"

libkmod2-udeb [linux]
kldutils-udeb [kfreebsd]


Any idea which of those installs systemd, and if that can be modified 
through a preseed command?

The only entry in there that looks like it might include systemd would 
be a dependency of the #include udev line, but udev just loads 
udev-udeb, and systemd isn't in any of its dependencies.

Thoughts?
> > b. configure the list of packages for both the tasksel step and the
> > pkgsel step before actually doing any installs?
> This.

Thanks,

Miles

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