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Re: debian-advocacy?



On 10/13/2014 at 05:52 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:

> On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 08:40:38AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
> 
>> Vocal minority, looking after the interests of many more whom will
>> be yet to learn of the facts at some stage.....
> 
> Don't confuse facts and opinions. You seem to be labouring under the
> assumption that your opinions are "right" and everyone who disagrees,
> or is yet to get involved, is misinformed.

I read that as him referring not to the people who are "misinformed" but
to the ones who are presently "uninformed", as in they don't even know
that a transition is coming up - the people who probably wouldn't even
notice the systemd transition happening unless they personally
encountered a bug resulting from it.

Those people certainly have "yet to learn of the facts", regardless of
what those "facts" are.

>> but otherwise have no reason to think something could change so
>> drastically with Debian stable release. ;-)
> 
> It's not yet clear that the init system *will* change for upgrades.

Have there been developments on that front?

The last discussion of that topic of which I'm aware was under bug
762194, which has seen no comments since September 21st. There has been
ancillary or otherwise related discussion in bug 746578, and discussion
of an upgrade-time transition prompt in bug 747535, neither of which has
seen much activity in a similar time-frame.

The last "state of discussion" I remember from bug 762194 was that the
status quo, in which the transition will happen automatically due to
existing package dependencies, was still prevailing. Since no further
comments have been made there, I would presume that that remains
unchanged. Is that not correct?

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw

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