Re: piece of mind (Re: Moderated posts?)
At Mon, 13 Oct 2014 13:23:16 -0400,
Miles Fidelman wrote:
>
> Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > On Mon, 13 Oct 2014, Matthias Urlichs wrote:
> >> In any case, users _do_ have a say. They can force their systems to remain
> >> on sys5 init, or switch to a different distro if that should also turn out
> > Which, I should add, is something we measure if the user installs
> > popularity-contest and opts-in to its measurements.
> >
> > http://popcon.debian.org/
> >
>
> which sure seems to reinforce the popularity of sysvinit
>
> 18 sysvinit 697126 583755 44903 63528 4940
> 19 imagemagick 671330 54630 97400 59765 459535
> 20 pam 664835 424521 161793 74475 4046
> 21 evolution-data-server 661614 129835 138891 91065 301823
> 22 perl 642831 412336 121683 76726 32086
> 23 systemd 630568 287748 54129 57693 230998
>
>
> Then again, how much of that is simply an artifact of default
> initialization, vs. by choice, is unclear.
Comparing those source packages is just comparing the previous
essential sysvinit package against udev. If you want a better picture
you should look at systemd-sysv versus sysvinit-core:
2335 systemd-sysv 19845 14413 925 4504 3 (Debian Systemd Maintainers)
4623 sysvinit-core 5634 4866 576 191 1 (Debian Sysvinit Maintainers)
Sysvinit-core was introduced in jessie and systemd-sysv conflicts with
sysvinit-core. Systemd-sysv is also available in wheezy, but there are
24486 reports from the popcon version 1.61 (testing/unstable) which
means only about 1000 of the systemd-sysv installs seem to be from
wheezy. So a big majority of the testing/unstable users don't seem to
have a problem with systemd, just like a majority of the DDs don't
have a problem with systemd or else we would already have had a GR.
It would be nice if the minority which doesn't like systemd would just
accept that systemd is the default init system in jessie and that the
majority of developers and users don't seem to have any problem with
that.
Kind regards,
Jeroen Dekkers
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