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Re: Bash usage: was implicit linkage



On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Chris Bannister
<cbannister@slingshot.co.nz> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 07:53:03AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
>> 2014/10/13 2:14 "Andrei POPESCU" <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>:
>> >
>> > On Du, 12 oct 14, 10:30:52, The Wanderer wrote:
>> > > On 10/12/2014 at 10:07 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Any program that requires additional scripting just to get it running
>> > > > is insufficiently advanced.
>> > > >
>> > > > (you can quote me on that)
>> > >
>> > > Part of the tradeoff for power is responsibility - both in the
>> > > responsibility to use the power wisely, and in the responsibility to do
>> > > things yourself rather than have others do them for you.
>> >
>> > But I'm also aware of the limits of my powers and don't try to do too
>> > much, but instead use the right tool.
>>
>> Let's gloss over the idea that opinions on what constitutes "the right
>> tool" differ, and ignore the question of what to do when "the right tool"
>> doesn't exist.
>>
>> > > If you don't want the responsibility of writing shell scripts (or other
>> > > scripting), you will have to accept not having the power to do some of
>> > > the things you could do with such scripts.
>> >
>> > As well as avoid some of the mistakes I would (most probably) do.
>>
>> Which is another way of saying that you want others to have already made
>> the mistakes for you.
>
> No it isn't!  Ponder why most people take their car to a mechanic for
> servicing.

And you snipped:

>> As long as you recognize that somebody has to make the mistakes,
>> and don't mind watching and learning while they do, that's not necessarily
>> a bad thing, given courtesy and quid-pro-quo, of course.

Paying a mechanic is one kind of quid-pro-quo, wouldn't you say?

Paying money to buy the car is another form of quid-pro-quo, as well, I'd say.

Do I need to unpack that a bit more, talk about how testing is a
substitute for making mistakes?

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> who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the
> oppressing." --- Malcolm X

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Joel Rees

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Look first in your own heart,
and ask yourself if you are not your own worst enemy.
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