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Re: Let's have a vote!



On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 08:10:17AM +0200, Mart van de Wege wrote:
> Steve Litt <slitt@troubleshooters.com> writes:
> 
> > On Wed, 17 Sep 2014 11:49:52 +0200
> > Mart van de Wege <mvdwege@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Steve Litt <slitt@troubleshooters.com> writes:
> >> 
> >> >
> >> > And last but not least is the alternative of holding your nose and
> >> > using systemd. If I go that route, the first thing I'm going to do
> >> > is remove daemons from systemd's control and move them to
> >> > Daemontools. As a matter of fact, I've created a cron replacement
> >> > in Python, which tonight I'm going to daemonize using Daemontools.
> >> > I'm getting a lot of Daemontools practice, because no matter what
> >> > my init, Daemontools might end up being a better alternative for
> >> > most of my daemons.
> >> >
> >> I really don't get this. In your distaste for systemd you end up
> >> reimplenting it with twine and baling wire. This is not logical,
> >> rational disagreement, this is cutting off your nose to spite your
> >> face.
> >
> > A) Twine and baling wire is better than monolithic entanglement.
> 
> Yeah, after this I'm really not going to take you seriously anymore.
> >
> > B) If you try Daemontools, you just might switch your view of which is
> >    twine and baling wire, 
> 
> Yeah, mixing sysvinit and daemontools, especially if you only do this to
> try and duplicate systemd features, is twine and baling wire. You might
> want to check your assumptions, you don't know what I use at
> work. Here's a hint: I'm a sysadmin. 

Strangely, I've been using sysvinit and daemontools on Debian
for years and years. At work. To run services that handle
hundreds of millions of dollars of other people's money.

I'm a sysadmin, too.

-dsr-


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