On 09/14/2014 04:33 PM, lee wrote: > Linux-Fan <Ma_Sys.ma@web.de> writes: > >>> On 09/14/2014 12:38 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: >> >> or even buy some additional drives (I know that it is often said that >> "today drives are cheap" but for me being comparatively new to >> computing, 60€ are still much for a HDD) > > Where do you get good 2TB+ drives for only EUR 60? In fact, I don't. That was a thoughtless aestimate and I wanted to avoid posting a price which is more than one can currently get disks for as this could have resulted in someone posting "you are lying, you do not even need to pay 80€, here is one for 74€" or such. I do not know, if you consider them "good", but here is one for 71€ http://www.reichelt.de/Interne-Festplatten-8-89cm-3-5-SATA/ST2000DM001/3/index.html?&ACTION=3&LA=2&ARTICLE=121092&GROUPID=6136&artnr=ST2000DM001 >>> Goodness, an HP Microserver fully made and ready for four drives costs about twice the cost >>> of a 4TB internal drive. > > +1 > > These also have ECC RAM, and when a 2TB RAID-1 is enough for you, you > can as well buy one of those instead of a SAS/SATA controller or a port > multiplier. IIRC, they consume only about 30W, so you can probably > connect it to your existing UPS. You can offload services to it and > leave it running. I do not have a separate room to put the server into to avoid the noise and do not like the idea of running a server all the time to only provide storage for a single system (which is not always online). > I considered buying one and didn't because it was difficult/impossible > to find one that has at least 8GB RAM without spending quite a bit of > money. I also wanted some more processing power than the Microservers > have, and getting real server hardware was intriguing, so I ended up > buying a 19" server. > > If you only want storage (plus a firewall/router, DNS, a web server and > an MTA, perhaps even asterisk) and don't need to run a couple VMs, a > Microserver is a pretty much perfect choice for you. I don't remember > if you can put SAS disks into these; if you can, get 2 72GB SAS disks @ > 15k RPM (about EUR 10--15 each) and run them in a RAID-1 to install the > system on. Then remove your USB disks from their enclosure, plug them > into the Microserver, and you're good to go. > > It'll cost you about EUR 200. If that seems a lot to you, please > consider that you get a *very* decent solution unlikely to cause any > trouble whatsoever (which would waste your valuable time) for the next > 10 years or so, unless a disk fails (which happens anyway). You also > save the cost of a router/firewall blackbox which very much limits you. Although that is a better long-term solution (which I will likely follow the next time any storage is to be added), I think I will stay with what I have now and see how it performs. > Only "problem" is that you're going to like the SAS disks and find out > how terribly slow your USB disks are ;) The same "problem" has already occurred when I used a "business"-class computer for the first time -- I will never buy a "consumer"-class model again... :) Linux-Fan -- http://masysma.lima-city.de/
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