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Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd

On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 22:03:53 +0300
Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sb, 05 iul 14, 14:25:57, Steve Litt wrote:
> > First things first: I'm Steve Litt, using the same email address I've
> > used since 1996. You may or may not believe me a troll, but you have to
> > admit I'm not some guy coming around yet again with new email address,
> > trying to fool everybody.
> ... 
> > conformant to the Unix Philosophy. Now comes systemd, which, from what
> > I've heard, is a further step away from the Unix Philosophy, in that it
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > is more monolithic and exerts more control and more continuous control
> > over all programs, from what I understand. And most un-Unix of all,
> > from what I understand it has binary log files.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> ....
> > In other words, from what I hear about systemd, it would be more
>                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > It looks to me like the main goals are to boot faster, and to tie
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> You say you don't want to troll, yet you make a lot of claims based, as 
> you yourself admit, on hearsay.
> > My plan is to switch to systemd, see how I like it, and if I don't,
> > install the old boot system, or if that can no longer be done, switch
> > distros. I don't see systemd as the end of the world. *But*, I think a
> > discussion of a plan B is very ontopic, because if the conversion to
> > systemd turns out to be even 1/10 the fiasco that the kmail to kmail2
> > change was, we all need a systemd alternative, and a plan to make that
> > switch.
> Change is difficult and there will be problems. On the other hand 
> systemd is used by a lot of distros already and the alternatives either 
> bitrot (sysv-init) or aren't really viable (OpenRC, etc.).
> 			^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Usually I'm not going with "the crowd" in my choices, but so far systemd 
> has worked fine for me (according to my git log I made the switch last 
> December) and I have no reason to even look at the alternatives.
> Kind regards,
> Andrei (currently involved in another major transition at work and 
> eagerly waiting for it)
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Why do you think that OpenRC isn't viable alternative? AFAIK on Gentoo it works quite well. I'm currently playing with it on Debian and i haven't had any problems so far.

Best regards,
Miroslav Hrabal

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