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Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd

On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 11:15 AM, The Wanderer <wanderer@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> On 07/06/2014 09:54 AM, Martin Read wrote:
>> On 06/07/14 00:10, The Wanderer wrote:
>>> Can you run logind without systemd or journald?
>> If you have something else that provides the systemd interfaces
>> logind depends on, you can run logind (and timedated, localed, and
>> hostnamed) without using systemd as PID 1. This is what the
>> systemd-shim project is intended to allow (but see below).
> So in other words, at least as far as the systemd project itself is
> concerned, you can't. (I'm assuming systemd-shim is not a product of the
> systemd project, since that project's developers seem entirely content
> with just the main implementation and it seems unlikely they would want
> to host two parallel implementations of the same interfaces in the same
> collection of projects.)
> Also, I wasn't talking about running logind without systemd "as PID 1",
> although of course that's a major consideration; I was talking about
> running logind with systemd possibly not even present on the system at
> all. I.e., completely independent components, which may simply be able
> to interact with and enhance one another.

Ubuntu 14.04 runs logind without systemd, installed or as pid 1.

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