On 07/05/2014 03:09 PM, Erwan David wrote:
Le 05/07/2014 20:50, Bzzzz a écrit :On Sat, 5 Jul 2014 14:25:57 -0400 Steve Litt <slitt@troubleshooters.com> wrote:My plan is to switch to systemd, see how I like it, and if I don't, install the old boot system, or if that can no longer be done, switch distros. I don't see systemd as the end of the world. *But*, I think a discussion of a plan B is very ontopic, because if the conversion to systemd turns out to be even 1/10 the fiasco that the kmail to kmail2 change was, we all need a systemd alternative, and a plan to make that switch.I just made a re-installation on my last laptop and it installed by itself when upgrading to sid. AFAICS, it is really fast; now, we'll see what problem will be raised in the future… (hoping it won't turn to a frigging mess).I see big problem with this method : it works for a personal standalone computer. It is catastrophic when you manage hundreds of servers and tightly integrated workstations. And I still see no transition documentation or help. There is documentation, but only reference docyumentation using very speciaized and non standard voicabulary, so verycomplicated to understand. That's what it lacks. I also think that the transition was far too fast : The testing fast, see wether it breaks anything should have been done *before* setting it the default. Not after.
My Proxmox server runs Debian Wheezy, with nary a mention of systemd in sight. Systemd is not a requirement for Jessie, unless you enable it. But, for laptops and desktops, it might prove the cure for all of the suspend/hibernate functions. That would be a good thing, for Joe and Jane Lunchbucket new users ...IMHO. Ric