Re: Off-topic posting (was Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management)
Top posting here, as everything below is WAY OT. Sorry, Jerry, as old
a hand as you may be, you're wrong. Take this "conversation"
elsewhere, and stop embarrassing yourself and polluting this otherwise
useful list.
Cheers
Patrick
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 8:12 PM, Jerry Stuckle <jstuckle@attglobal.net> wrote:
> On 5/20/2014 5:05 PM, David Guntner wrote:
>>
>> David Guntner grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
>>>
>>> Jerry Stuckle grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Then don't add to the bandwidth with your please to stop. As you've
>>>> been told before - just ignore the thread. And if you can't do that,
>>>> get a email reader that will.
>>>
>>>
>>> No. Just because you and a small group of noisy people are too fscking
>>> lazy and inconsiderate to take the topic where it belongs and where it
>>> would be WAY more appropriate is not a reason for everyone else on the
>>> list who is here for the purpose of talking ABOUT THINGS DIRECTLY
>>> RELATED TO DEBIAN to have to make modifications to get your unwanted
>>> cruft out of their mail readers.
>>>
>>> The Debian off-topic list exists expressly for the purpose of discussing
>>> things like this. It's not rocket science, Jerry. Even you should be
>>> able to figure that out. I can't help it that you just don't want to
>>> and think that this list is your personal playground where anything goes.
>>
>>
>> Ok, that last bit was a bit insulting, and was uncalled for. I
>> apologize for that.
>>
>
> Yes, I find you quite insulting.
>
>> However, that does not change the fact that you and the other noisy few
>> who just *have* to drag an off-topic discussion on and on and on and on
>> to the point where it's not even beating a dead horse any more - the
>> horse is GLUE at this point - is incredibly inconsiderate to all the
>> other people on this list who are here for reading and discussion things
>> that pertain directly to the Debian operating system and its software
>> package. Which is, after all, the stated purpose of this list. An
>> Debian Off-Topic list was created specifically for the purpose of
>> allowing Debian users a place where they can discuss politics, DRM, the
>> FSF condemning ant-eaters for eating ants, etc. to their heart's
>> content. People on that list want to discuss, and see discussions, on
>> all those other subjects.
>>
>
> There seem to be a lot of people contributing to this conversation - but
> very few (i.e. ONE) complaining about it.
>
>> THIS list is here for the purpose stated above. When you guys keep
>> going on and on and on about something which is blatantly, patently
>> off-topic for it, you are, in fact, being extremely rude and
>> inconsiderate of all those others - many of whom may simply be lurking
>> to read and learn. When you flood the list with so much noise that the
>> actual signal starts to be drowned out, you effectively ruin the
>> usefulness of the list for its intended purpose.
>>
>
> Maybe it's useless to you. Tough.
>
>> I've been using the internet since the 80's, and yes, I'm perfectly
>> capable of kill-filing those topics. If all I was concerned about was
>> just me, I'd do it. But I want the list to remain useful for others as
>> well.
>>
>
> In that case I've got you by at least 10 years - I've been on since it was
> arpanet in the early 70's. And one thing I've found - which you SHOULD have
> been able to figure out by now - not every discussion is going to be of
> interest to every person on the mailing list. If you're not interested in
> the discussion, killfile it.
>
>> On a strictly personal level, face it - I'm on this list because of its
>> intended purpose. I should not *have* to take steps to filter out
>> off-topic massive threads that just won't go away - NOBODY should have
>> to. Some off-topic stuff is always going to happen on any list. It's
>> just a fact of life that topics will drift a bit every now and then.
>> But when you know damn-well that you're off topic and someone takes the
>> time to nudge you about it, telling them "I'm not going to, just filter
>> it out" is the height of arrogance. What you're saying is that it's way
>> more important that you use the list any way you want and that people
>> who want the list used for its intended purpose can just bugger off.
>>
>
> As am I. And if you don't like a discussion, ignore it. That's what
> filters are for. And telling someone to take an active conversation
> somewhere else because YOU DON'T LIKE IT - now THAT is the HEIGHT OF
> ARROGANCE.
>
>> I'm not going to continue this particular discussion on list, because I
>> don't want *this* thread to drag out into Yet Another Off-Topic Thread
>> That Just Won't Die. If you want to discuss further, feel free to reply
>> back to me directly. If you feel the burning need to reply to this
>> on-list, there's not much I can do to stop you. :-) But I won't reply
>> to anything you say there on the list.
>>
>> --Dave
>
>
> Then please don't waste any more bandwidth. You do this every time a
> discussion YOU decide is off-topic comes up. And although you've been told
> the same by many people, you continue your infantile behavior.
>
> Jerry
>
>
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