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Re: Debian 5 -- "data" is plural.



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On 2014-05-20 12:16, Filip wrote:

> On Tue, 20 May 2014 17:03:16 +0100 Lisi Reisz 
> <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> (Sorry, Ken. re-sending correctly to list.)
>> 
>> On Tuesday 20 May 2014 16:00:42 Ken Heard wrote:
>>> Please note everybody that the word "data" is plural.  The 
>>> beginning of the last line quoted above should consequently 
>>> read "all the scientific data *are* backed up."  Other posts in
>>> this thread make the same error.  The singular of data is 
>>> datum.
>> 
>> This is of course, grammatically correct.  But I would argue 
>> that, although in formal writing it should certainly be treated 
>> as a plural, in colloquial speech it no longer is.  I would also
>>  argue that emails are colloquial speech not formal writing.
>> 
>> This does not apply in the same way to all of your "group".
>> Where it is needful to have both a singular and a plural, as in 
>> bacterium/bacteria and criterion/criteria it would be perverse
>> to make a plural by putting an s on the plural!  (Though some
>> people do.)
>> 
>> Language changes, whether one wishes it or not.  We no longer 
>> speak the English of Shakespeare or the King James' Bible.  I 
>> still sometimes catch myself using the present subjunctive in 
>> speech.  I do not think that I am correct to do so.  For this 
>> usage it is dead. Indeed, for all intents and purposes, the 
>> imperfect subjunctive is dead.
>> 
>> Lisi
>> 
>> 
> 
> The dictionary agrees with you.
> 
> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/data
> 
> "Both constructions are standard. The plural construction is more 
> common in print, evidently because the house style of several 
> publishers mandates it."

The Oxford English Dictionary however agrees with me.

Regards, Ken



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