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Re: Backup's to DVD



On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 18:50 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 17:51 +0200, Lars Noodén wrote:
> > CDs and DVDs are physically different media than CD R and DVD R which
> > are in turn different from CD RW and DVD RW.  CDs will last a long time,
> > as they have a layer of physically dented metal between slabs of
> > plastic.  But you can't press one yourself.  For anecdotes, I have some
> > pushing 30 years that play but I don't have MD5 checksums or anything to
> > verify them.
> > 
> > I've had some CD R last only a few years, starting from the date of
> > manufacture not date of burn.  The claim is 5 to 10 years, from date of
> > manufacture, but I have yet to see a date on the packages.  CD R uses a
> > layer of dye which is then burned opaque.  Those with higher quality
> > dyes should last longer before data loss begins but the dyes oxidize
> > over time and the rate depends on storage conditions and atmosphere.
> > About the only advantage is that they cannot be re-written so, while
> > they last, can serve as proof or evidence if a proper chain of custody
> > is also maintained.
> > 
> > CD RW is more complex having a phase-changing layer but max out at a
> > theoretical 25 years under ideal storage and handling conditions,
> > starting from quality manufacturing.
> > 
> > See:
> > 	http://www.clir.org/pubs/reports/pub121/sec4.html
> > 
> > The longevity of flash is still a big unknown.
> 
> I made the best experiences with DVD-RAM. _When_ ever it was possible to
> write to a DVD-RAM the data was safe, _but_ many DVD-RAMs were broken, I
> payed a lot of money and the new once were already unusable, very often
> neither Linux nor Windows was able to write data to DVD-RAM or it needed
> hours just to write 1 KiB. And assumed you never ever will experience
> writing issues, when using DVD-RAM, what are 4.7 GB good for? How often
> will you split your tar files?

PS:

Once the data is written, everything is fine. Reading DVD-RAM isn't an
issue.

DVD-RAM is opto-magnetical. The magnetical layer only could be changed,
after optical heat allows this. DVD-RAM can be used the way a HDD is
used, no burning software is needed.


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