Re: Init system deba{te|cle}
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 8:58 PM, <berenger.morel@neutralite.org> wrote:
> Le 31.10.2013 21:06, André Nunes Batista a écrit :
>> On Wed, 2013-10-30 at 14:22 +0000, Tom H wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 8:55 PM, John <JohnRChamplin@wowway.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Could someone who has been following the giant fuss on -devel over
>>>> init systems explain why there's such a sense of dire urgency?
>>>>
>>>> Is it provoked by systemd's effort to be adopted having at least found
>>>> a home with gnome, made urgent by gnome's status as our default?
>>>
>>> Although this isn't the first debian-devel systemd-slugfest, there's
>>> more of a sense of urgency and finality this time because GNOME 3.8
>>> depends on logind, and, other than on Ubuntu for systemd <=204, that
>>> means that GNOME 3.8 depends on systemd-as-pid-1.
>>
>> And does one really needs Gnome? Based on the level of user
>> dissatisfaction I'd say Gnome shouldn't interfere with boot process.
>> Especially one that tries to bundle everything... maybe gnome-devs are
>> trying hard to address smarts, tablets and gadgets only?
>
> That's not gnome which changes the boot process. It's systemd. It simply
> happens that gnome depends on systemd in Debian build.
> Since AFAIK gnome is still available on platforms not based on linux kernel,
> unlike systemd, I really think that it's gnome maintainer's choice to have
> this hard dependency.
If it's the Debian's GNOME maintainers' choice, how come GNOME depends
on systemd in Gentoo?
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