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Re: Hosting advice



On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Jerry Stuckle <jstuckle@attglobal.net> wrote:
> On 11/1/2013 4:27 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Craig L. <craig@gtek.biz> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I have a good friend that is in a sticky situation and has turned to me
>>> for help. I'm not 100% sure of how to advise him so I figured I would pose
>>> our question here.
>>>
>>> He lives in Texas, in the USA. He is starting his own business, and a bit
>>> sooner than he planned. He has a domain registered to him. He needs to be
>>> able to set up email service asap, with an eye towards eventually setting up
>>> a web site for the operation. I know GoDaddy offers these types of services,
>>> but I'm not a big fan of GoDaddy. Since I will probably be the system
>>> administrator for a while, I would prefer a hosting service that offers a
>>> Linux OS, preferably Debian, and PostgreSQL or MySQL, again preferably
>>> PostgreSQL.
>>>
>>> May I trouble you good people for suggestions that meet these needs? We
>>> would like to have at least one working email address by close of business
>>> tomorrow (Friday, 1 November), or Monday at the latest.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Craig
>>
>>
>> If you're in that kind of hurry, google can do some cool stuff for
>> you, but they don't seem to be settled about what they provide. I've
>> been using a combination of google apps and dyn.com's dynamic dns, but
>> dyn changed their business model, too, and I can't freeload any more.
>> (Sob, sniff.) Heh.
>>
>> Everybody seems to be in the process of changing their business models
>> these days.
>>
>> What I did, and I think you can still do it with the paid stuff at
>> google, was register a subdomain from dyn, mapped it (dynamic dns) to
>> my personal server here at home, used that as my domain for google
>> apps, and let google handle the mail.
>>
>> Dyn still does free subdomains, but the subdomain I was using is now
>> "premium". When my financial stuff settles down again, I'm probably
>> going to become a paying customer at dyn. They do registrar stuff for
>> the common top-level domains too, now.
>>
>
> I would *never* run a business site from home.  Data centers have multiple
> communications links (from different suppliers), backup power and techs on
> duty 25/7.  Can you provide that from home?
>
> Jerry
>

Did I say I had a business site on the server? I look back at that and
I don't see anywhere I said that I had a business site on that server.
Do you see anywhere I said I had a business site on that server?

No?

I didn't think so.

Now, to forestall your next diatribe, Craig said his friend needed an
e-mail address and a net presence in a real hurry. He did not say he
needed a full-blown business site, just a net presence. He did not say
in a couple of days, he said tonight.

Running a business on a Google site is stupid, but it is a good option
to get a site and multiple e-mail addresses up quickly. You only need
a domain and a server for Google to communicate with. Any server will
do, even a vanity server. Using dynamic DNS to publish a home server
that will immediately be transferred to Google is one way to do that.

Once you're up and that pressure is off, you can focus on getting your
real site set up. Once you've found a set of options (hosting or
co-location or such) that works for you, dynamic dns can actually help
in the transition, among other things.

It's one set of options that may or may not be useful, depending on
how fast and reliable the other options are.

Now, I'm sure you're going to waste a lot of time thinking of reasons
all of that is stupid. Go for it. Waste your time. I've got other
things to do.

-- 
Joel Rees

Be careful where you see conspiracy.
Look first in your own heart.


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