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Re: sysadmin qualifications (Re: apt-get vs. aptitude)





Le 12.10.2013 02:24, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :
On 10/11/2013 6:22 PM, berenger.morel@neutralite.org wrote:


Le 12.10.2013 00:01, Paul Cartwright a écrit :
On 10/11/2013 05:21 PM, berenger.morel@neutralite.org [1] wrote:

It does only means you own the system. Not that you can claim to be
a sysadmin. I own my car. I am not a mechanic, but I anyway have
the
*AUTHORIZATIONS* to tinker it. It's what root, or to be more
precise, uid=0 means in linux OSes.
 the difference is, you don't have a "mechanic" for Debian, you ARE
the mechanic. YOU make it better ( or worse), so yes you ARE the
sysadmin. your other users cannot maintain the system, they cannot
update the system, they cannot destroy the system. You can update it,
maintain it, destroy it, all by yourself.

I think we simply disagree on what a sysadmin is.
So, I'll now use a definition that I does not have created, from a
source which is often considered as quite good, wikipedia:

===============
A system administrator, or sysadmin, is a person who is responsible for the upkeep, configuration, and reliable operation of computer systems;
especially multi-user computers, such as servers.
===============

The keyword here is "multi-user", with the constraints it apply. If you manage your own computer, then, ok, you are the admin of your computer.
You are not a sysadmin.
That's my opinion, and I accept to discuss about it, but unfortunately, I must admit that your argument is not strong enough to convince me, and that I can not find an argument that I think you could hear. Except the authority argument I just used, which I consider as many other people as a weak one ( at least I was able to quote, and not simply say "I know
someone which...". Better than usual in that kind of arguments ).



Wikipedia is hardly what I would call "reliable".

Did not I said "often" ?

If all you have for an "authority" is Wikipedia, then your "argument"
is not strong enough to convince me.

And I admitted it myself, that it was a weak one. I think we simply disagree on the meaning of the word, and maybe because of the fact that I am not a native or even good English speaker, I reached my limits on this discussion. That was the most important thing I said in my previous mail.


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