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Re: should an end user stick to a kernel with an initrd?



On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 14:41 -0400, Tom H wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Ralf Mardorf
> <ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net> wrote:
> > On Fri, 2013-09-27 at 13:34 -0400, Tom H wrote:
> >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf
> >> <ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net> wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 2013-09-26 at 19:07 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Traditional device names, such as /dev/sda, /dev/sdb,
> >>>> (and therefore the partitions on those devices, such
> >>>> as /dev/sda1, /dev/sdb1, etc.) are not assigned in a predictable
> >>>> manner anymore.  This device name assignment can change from one boot
> >>>> to the next.
> >>>
> >>> This never happened on my machine.
> >>
> >> This won't happen if you have just one disk. ;)
> >>
> >> On a more serious note, do you really think that all the people
> >> maintaining distributions thought "using sdX is far too simple and
> >> easy, let's start using human-non-parsable UUIDs?!"
> >
> > At least 2 disks are mounted, while I prefer to use labels, sd* anyway
> > does work too.
> 
> I couldn't care less how many disks you have.
> 
> Defaulting to the use of UUIDs isn't some wacky whim but a
> well-reasoned technical decision, unless you want to claim to know
> more than the developers putting together distributions.
> 
> This isn't a question of "/dev/sdX works for me, yay!" The issue is
> that device names aren't NECESSARILY stable (some would say that
> they've never been so) so, distributions are using UUIDs in order to
> avoid having any Linux user anywhere be unable to boot because sda is
> now sdc, sdb is now sda, and sdc is now sdb...

I only want to mention that this never happened on my machine within the
last >= 10 years and I turn my PC often on and off. How often does it
switch on your machine? Does anybody experience that sda became sdb
after rebooting? I don't claim that this can't happen.


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