Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)
On Friday 30 August 2013 11:09:29 Joel Rees wrote:
> Sorry about posting this to you off-list, Lisi.
I too apologise for therefore reciprocating!
On Friday 30 August 2013 10:51:10 Joel Rees wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 21 August 2013 22:37:25 Bob Proulx wrote:
> >> All worked perfectly as described. Accented characters are easily
> >> input. But then the follow-up came back that they wanted to input the
> >> bar characters āēīōū. And I don't see how to input bar characters
> >> with the above.
> >>
> >> Because now I know that specifically they want to input the barred
> >> characters āēīōū what would be possible methods to type those in that
> >> I should recommend to them?
> >
> > I cannot even display these characters in oyur email! I get empty boxes.
> > This thread would appear to apply only to US keyboards and locales.
>
> I believe those are the same overbar characters that are often used
> for doubled vowels in Japanese in certain "Romanization"
> (Latinization) methods.
>
> Hmm. I looked up the five vowels in question, "āēīōū", on Google and
> found several sites mentioning "macron" and finally the switch clicked
> in my brain. (Also found an irrelevant reference to the Habsburg
> Empire. Heh.)
>
> Looking up "macron" on wikipedia yields information:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macron
>
> Odd that Japanese is not mentioned on that page. But, yes, macron
> vowels are used in, for example, Hepburn form Rōmaji. I was going to
> mention that when this thread started, but I had the idea it might
> distract from the OP's real question.
>
> > You obviously learn Latin differently over there too. I have a degree in
> > Latin, and have taught Latin, and have never had to use these characters!
> >
> > Lisi
>
> The Wikipedia page does explain a little bit about that.
As I said, my display was not showing any of these, and I misuderstood what
people were saying that they were! I thought everyone was saying that they
are marks that show a mssing part of the word that you have to extrapolate,
as happens on Greek Icons.
Simply marking a long or short vowel I have frequently come across, but do not
regard the marks as being an intrinsic part of the letter; as French accents
are, for example..
Rough and smooth breathings are of course, in a sense, a part of the letter,
but those were not mentioned.
Lisi
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Lisi Reisz <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Wednesday 21 August 2013 22:37:25 Bob Proulx wrote:
> >>> All worked perfectly as described. Accented characters are easily
> >>> input. But then the follow-up came back that they wanted to input the
> >>> bar characters āēīōū. And I don't see how to input bar characters
> >>> with the above.
> >>>
> >>> Because now I know that specifically they want to input the barred
> >>> characters āēīōū what would be possible methods to type those in that
> >>> I should recommend to them?
> >>
> >> I cannot even display these characters in oyur email! I get empty
> >> boxes. This thread would appear to apply only to US keyboards and
> >> locales.
> >
> > I believe those are the same overbar characters that are often used
> > for doubled vowels in Japanese in certain "Romanization"
> > (Latinization) methods.
> >
> > Hmm. I looked up the five vowels in question, "āēīōū", on Google and
> > found several sites mentioning "macron" and finally the switch clicked
> > in my brain. (Also found an irrelevant reference to the Habsburg
> > Empire. Heh.)
> >
> > Looking up "macron" on wikipedia yields information:
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macron
> >
> > Odd that Japanese is not mentioned on that page.
>
> Except, it is. Missed that, too. Maybe I'm getting senile.
>
> > But, yes, macron
> > vowels are used in, for example, Hepburn form Rōmaji. I was going to
> > mention that when this thread started, but I had the idea it might
> > distract from the OP's real question.
> >
> >> You obviously learn Latin differently over there too. I have a degree
> >> in Latin, and have taught Latin, and have never had to use these
> >> characters!
> >>
> >> Lisi
> >
> > The Wikipedia page does explain a little bit about that.
> >
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> > Joel Rees
>
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> Joel Rees
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