Re: What if I choose install text-based mode than X?
在 2013年8月23日星期五UTC+8上午2时30分02秒，Catalin Soare写道：
> On Aug 22, 2013 5:24 PM, <berenge...@neutralite.org> wrote:
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> > Le 22.08.2013 15:22, 郭靖 a écrit :
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> >> 在 2013年8月22日星期四UTC+8下午6时50分01秒，Ralf Mardorf写道：
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> >>> On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 19:41 -0700, 郭靖 wrote:
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> >>> > I've burned a Live CD, and I tried it on VirtualBox, it looked fine
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> >>> > but I chose the wrong place for GRUB, at last it didn't run well.
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> >>> More information is needed to comment this.
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> >>> > is Synaptic different from apt-get? Which of them has more softwares?
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> >>> Both use the same list of repositories, so the same software is
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> >>> > mc looks fine and I may tried out.
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> >>> mcedit is the command to access it's editor directly and
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> >>> mcedit /path/to/file/foo will open the editor and a file directly. nano
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> >>> is another easy to use editor, but you should know the basics how to use
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> >>> vi, or vim, since those are the editors that usually are separated from
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> >>> the rest of the userspace and available if everything should be broken
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> >>> If you want to learn Linux this way I would recommend to use another
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> >>> distro, but this are only my 2 cents. I for example prefer Arch over
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> >>> Debian. Beside the repositories that provide binaries Arch comes with a
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> >>> build system similar to FreeBSD ports, packages neither for this build
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> >>> packages follow upstream, IOW a lib will not get a separated package,
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> >>> headers don't get separated packages too. Building packages for Arch is
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> >>> much easier than doing it for Debian. The _real_ rolling release model
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> >>> of Arch does provide latest _stable_ software, so if you want to develop
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> >>> using a lot of new stuff from git, svn etc., you wouldn't run that easy
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> >>> into issues, as you'll do when using Debian.
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> >>> > If I dual-boot Debian on my MBP, then install rEFIt, would it be fine?
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> >>> I don't know.
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> >>> https://wiki.debian.org/MacBook/DebianInstallTutorial
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> >>> https://wiki.debian.org/MacBookPro
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> >>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MacBook
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> >>> http://codylittlewood.com/arch-linux-on-macbook-pro-installation/
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> >>> > And can I send and/or receive mailing list or emails, and talk on IRC
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> >>> You are already doing it ;), but yes you can do it using Linux too :).
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> >>> Regards,
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> >>> Ralf
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> >> I think you misunderstood, mc here means Midnight Commander, a file manager.
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> >> Arch has been considered before, but I don't have a great knowledge
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> >> BTW, I mean can I use IRC on text-based OS?
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> > Yes, and you can even browse the web if you want: you just need a ncurse client to do that.
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> > To find one that will suit your needs, I can only give an advice: run aptitude, install debtags, then open a debtab consultation ( in views ), go to protocol->irc tree, and search for one which have the debtab interface::commandline or interface::text-mode.
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> > Aptitude with debtags is my favorite method to search for softwares which would fit my needs: it can filter stuff by many things, like programming language, interface (x11, ncurses...), library (gtk, qt), desktop environment... very useful when you try to keep a system as lightweight as possible (I avoid stuff related to DE, and try to avoid any thing with many dependencies, like python softwares usually.)
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> Hello,
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> I recommend you install debian with a GUI at first, because things will get messy and hard to do since (no offense here) you have no experience with Linux. Just select a desktop environment when you are prompted for the server selection previously mentioned.
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> The reason for that is: if you want to learn Linux commands, you need a terminal emulator. That can be a Gnome-Terminal, Konsole (if you chose KDE), xterm or tens more. In the mean time, you will find it more confortable to learn from a GUI.
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> Tip: for console browsers, you can try "apt-get install links" or lynx. They are so great, both of them.
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> You might want to try an introductory guide to Linux to get you started using it. I have.. many times :-)
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> Good luck and exercise your google-fu!
thx, I decide to install text-based system first and then just install KDE by apt-get. BTW, I find that debian-handbook.info is nice resource for people to learn or configure Debian.
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