Re: [OT] Mails coming from "joe1assistly@gmail.com"
On Tue, 01 May 2012 12:05:42 -0500, Indulekha wrote:
> On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 06:31:01PM +0200, Camaleón wrote:
>> > Apparently you don't have nntp access to actual usenet then? There is
>> > def a newsgroup, linux.debian.user, which is on usenet. It uses a
>> > mail2news gateway to duplicate this list, and it's what I was using
>> > to read it. Someone thought it would be a good idea to have cutesy
>> > headers, which break threading if you reply to this list via that
>> > group. As I'd actually read this group there for over a year before
>> > attempting to reply, that annoyed the living hell out of me.
>>
>> Is not that... yes, I'm using "linux.debian.user" but what happens is
>> that Debian mailing lists are, well, "mailing lists", there's no native
>> NNTP server managing the posts, they have to be converted from/to
>> e-mail/news so what we (you and me) are using is more like an hybrid,
>> in the end whatever handles the posts have to talk with a mailing list
>> server software, not a "news" server and here is where the mess starts
>> ;-)
>>
>>
> Well, the mail2news gateway does record the original headers before it
> cluelessly discards them, so it should be trivial to preserve them to be
> used appropriately for the sake of interoperability. It's quite annoying
> when people do things *almost* correctly for year after year when it's
> trivial to just do it correctly. Also, there were many other factors
> involved yesterday, so it was the wrong day for me to have to redo
> things I'd thought were already solved and I got a bit pissy over it.
Blame your mail2news gateway provider then. I don't experience that
problem with Gmane :-)
>> > Been using news.individual.net for years now, at times with leafnode.
>> > The issue is "let usenet work as it always did". I fondly remember
>> > the days when usenet was actually informative and useful. Yes, I'm
>> > old and sometimes quite cranky... :)
>>
>> I did not use Usenet, I started at the times of IRC and then mailing
>> lists and forums but after having used both systems (nntp and mailing
>> lists) I still consider the former a must for todays "one-to-many"
>> communication system.
>>
>>
> Well, I miss the usenet we once had.
> In fact, there's not much reason left for me to renew my
> news.individual.net account in June and I doubt I will. The skriptkidz,
> spammers, and trolls have about driven everything useful away. They
> weren't kidding about the Eternal September!
Gmane also does a good job when it comes to block the spam it reaches the
lists. Oh, oh... now I feel like a "human-advertising" :-P
> Oh well, here comes the future...
> I notice as I age it takes a bit more work to keep a clean slate and
> open mind. Worth the effort, though. :)
And I can't but concur with that perception.
Greetings,
--
Camaleón
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