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Re: Advice on system purchase



On 10/30/2012 11:25 AM, Mark Allums wrote:
> On 10/29/2012 1:43 PM, Worrier Poet wrote:
>> On 10/29/2012 02:15 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>>> Am Sonntag, 28. Oktober 2012 schrieb Stan Hoeppner:
>>>> On 10/28/2012 4:38 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>>>>> On Sb, 27 oct 12, 22:27:30, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>>>>>> Coming from a 2800+ which is a ~60 watt CPU, and given the fact
>>>>>> you'll never make use of more than 2 of those 8 cores, I recommend
>>>>>> a dual core AthlonII X2 @ 3.4GHz.  I have the 3GHz model and the
>>>>>> 2nd core is pretty much always idle, with primary core being idle
>>>>>> most of the time as well, as is everyone's.
>>>>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103953
>>>>>
>>>>> Any opinion on a Core i3 (Ivy Bridge)?
>>>>
>>>> I use and promote AMD exclusively.  If everyone buys Intel then AMD
>>>> exits the x86 processor business.  If/when that happens, Intel has no
>>>> competition and can and will do two detrimental things to the market:
>>>>
>>>> 1.  Raise prices with impunity
>>>> 2.  Innovate at a lower pace, or stop innovating altogether
>>>>
>>>> If enough people buy AMD then Intel has a strong competitor.  This
>>>> keeps the marketplace healthy and keeps Chipzilla from becoming a
>>>> total monopoly WRT x86.
>>>
>>> Granted. Thats the political reason.
>>>
>>> Still I see nothing in AMD space that can compete with recent
>>> Sandybridge
>>> / Ivybridge processors in terms of computing power versus power
>>> consumption ratio.
>>>
>>> But I am happy to learn more.
>>>
>>> I think that ARM will become interesting enough to have some competition
>>> going on.
>>>
>>> And I think AMD might have something nice to offer as competition to
>>> Intel
>>> Atom CPUs.
>>>
>>> For powerful laptops and power saving desktops I think Intel
>>> Sandybridge/Ivybridge is best bet currently - except for the political
>>> dimension.
>>>
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>> At the same time, I have reservations about supporting AMD -- or more to
>> the point their subsidiary, NVidia -- when purchasing hardware. It seems
>> to me that Intel has been a better friend to FOSS than its competition.
>> I run my systems without proprietary software or firmware. Intel has
>> made that a lot easier for me. I like to reward them for that -- not
>> that any of those companies would ever notice whether or not I was a
>> customer. NVidia certainly didn't give a d*** about me when I was trying
>> to get support for three workstations running their most expensive
>> pro-sumer graphics cards. (And that was on Windows, as well as on
>> GNU/Linux.)
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> the w
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> In case it hasn't been already pointed out, AMD and Nvidia are
> competitors, not partners.  AMD's subsidiary is ATI, who sell Radeon.
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Yup, it was pointed out to me right away. I was multi-mistaking at the
time and pulling my sense of reality out of a pipe dream.

I knew that AMD had bought one of the purveyors of expensive graphics
cards that I had terrible problems with. I took 1 plus 1 and came up
with Avagadro's number.


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