Re: Gnome crashing but not sure where the problem lies.
On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 21:41 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 12:57 -0600, Marcin Pisz wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I have multiple computers systems running dual boot windows and windows.
> > One computers seems to have the problem, all running debian wheezy. 25%
> > of the time when I start the system and login to gnome the first thing I
> > notice the top internet connection icons says no connection. Then the
> > activities menu does not show up. The only thing I am able to do
> > crl-alt-F1 and then restart the machine or use crt-alt-del from the
> > terminal to reboot the machine. I tried downloading and new version of
> > debian wheezy and re-installed it on the machine from clean install and
> > the problem returned. Not sure weather gnome-network is crashing,
> > problem exists before and after installing nvidia driver. Not sure if
> > it is gnome package. Problem is intermitten, but windows on the same
> > machine is rock solid stable so I doubt it's a hardware problem. Only
> > difference with this machine is it runs of a SSD vs a hard drive.
> > Though another laptop had this problem once as well.
> >
> > Not sure what package to fill bug against.
>
> I'm not using GNOME, but I'm using NetworkManager too.
>
> There are some exceptional cases when NetworkManager could be helpful,
> but usually it's just a PITA.
>
> On different distros I have to reboot, even killing the panel applet and
> trying to reconnect by command line doesn't work.
>
> You should connect to the Internet without such an interface like
> NetworManager or Wicd. If you want such a thingy try Wicd instead.
>
> Filing a bug against NetworkManager is useless, since those issues are
> well known.
>
> I don't know what Debian does provide? IIRC I used PPPoEconf for Debian
> and Ubuntu before I switched to NetworkManager, but perhaps I'm
> confusing things?
>
> On Arch I definitively used netcfg before I switched to NetworkManager.
>
> If there isn't a reason for you to use NetworkManager, at all events
> switch to something different.
>
> Regards,
> Ralf
PS:
IIRC ifconfig and some other commands do the job without NetworkManager
and Wicd.
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