Re: Do I still need alsa if I have pulseaudio
On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 4:39 AM, Lorenzo Sutton <lorenzofsutton@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 05/09/12 09:49, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> On Wed, 2012-09-05 at 09:41 +0200, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
>>> On 04/09/12 21:43, Jon Dowland wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Sep 04, 2012 at 09:59:19AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, pulseaudio needs ALSA. Note that pulseaudio is bad programmed
>>>>
>>>> That's certainly an opinion, and perhaps a commonly-repeated one, but
>>>> an opinion non-the-less.
>>>>
>>> +1 - I'm with Jon on this one.
>>
>> That's not an opinion. 1. The way how volumes are adjusted is insane, I
>> already explained it in another thread. 2. Pulseaudio does expect
>> information from ALSA drivers, they often can't give, so ALSA drivers
>> that are working without pulseaudio, won't work with pulseaudio. Seems
>> to be related to "1.". 3. Multi-Channel IO cards needed for DAWs can't
>> be used. So at least making PA a hard dependency for a DE is bad. Here
>> we call this "facts", not an opinion.
>
> I would still call those opinions related to possibly missing features or
> about certain features present, it still doesn't mean it is badly
> programmed.
>
> In my humble opinion you should probably at least file relevant bug reports
> or feature requests so as to act in a proactive manner, instead of just
> stating that something is bad[ly] programmed.
Ralf tends to confuse his opinions with technical facts...
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