Re: Strange network activity after updates
On Sun, 05 Aug 2012, Camaleón wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Aug 2012 19:48:35 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > On Sat, 04 Aug 2012, Camaleón wrote:
> >> I've never read about linux boxes being used as bots, can you please
> >> indicate any report/stats about that fact?
> > We've cleaned up a few work. We are not sure how the payload got in
> > (best guess: browser). I am not allowed to disclose any more data than
> > this.
> What?! Are you saying you have been tracking (or are aware of) these kind
> of security flaws which is being actively exploited in Linux but can't
Hmm... I keep telling you this is nothing new, you just don't believe me.
Ask people who work with large number of Linux desktops in a corporate
network, they will tell you the same thing. It is *uncommon* (when compared
to attacks against windows), but not unheard of by any means.
> don't know of any malware that can be exploited in that way under the
> linux ecosystem.
Please update your expectatives. This has not been true for a long while,
although it is easier to find the proof-of-concept reports than the real
thing. Not for much longer, though, there are downsides for the increased
popularity of Linux desktops.
> Papers, please. I ask because I'm subscribed to security bulletins and
I wouldn't know of any released papers, I don't pay much attention to
anything but crypto and communications security in the academic circles.
> This effectively means the malware profited not from an OS vulnerability
> but a JRE flaw.
Or Adobe Flash flaw, or whatever. It doesn't matter much in practice, the
end result is a compromised box that needs to be contained and scrubbed
> First, a server is usually managed by people that knows how this stuff
This is not true anymore.
> works (thus, care about security and having up-to-date systems, there are
IME, this is not "exactly true", to put it mildly. YMMV.
> > Well, that's your prerrogative. He has already detected weird
> > behaviour. In MY book, that means you consider it compromised until
> > further data, and you try to protect yourself and others by keeping it
> > contained until you know more.
> I wouldn't consider "weird behaviour" a connection from/to SSDP and
> Google machines. And while removing the link from the "suspicious" system
A continuous stream to SSDP is weird, yes. Whether it is the result of a
bug or something else, we don't know. I am still waiting for the packet
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