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Re: Free movies on the Internet -- download scams [OT]



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On 28/02/12 19:23, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 18:21 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> On 28/02/12 15:34, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 05:24 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 2012-02-28 at 11:16 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>>>>> Lot's of, um, people searching for free lunches means lots of people
>>>>> falling into traps.
>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> An advice to the OP and everybody who download videos for free by
>>>> torrent.
>>>>
>>>> In my hometown Oberhausen Rheinland Germany the judges don't care about,
>>>> if somebody else did "download" [1] videos and music for free via your
>>>> protected account. If somebody was able to hack your protection it's
>>>> your fault.
<snipped>

>>>>
>>>> [1] Happens to a clueless person I know. I suspect regarding to the
>>>> "download" this person is mistaken. I guess the person had to pay much
>>>> money, because somebody else did upload, when doing a download.

NOTE: download is regarded as theft of potential revenue (by means of a
distribution system that threatens the one run by a monopolistic
cartel). Upload while downloading (bittorrent) is distribution - a more
serious offence by most laws.

Unfortunately "piracy" (a psyops term that backfired) is used as a
scapegoat to threaten bittorrent as a distribution system for
independent content makers.

>>>
>>> PS: I wonder how (in)secure it is to fake an IP with the torrent client.
>>
>> :-D
>>
>> How are you going to get packets back when you're spoofing your address?
> 
> Good point. 


> Another way to go would doing the download / upload by a tor
> network.

A. tor will *not* thank you
B. it'd be slow
C. it presupposes your entry and exit nodes can't be matched - which
both PIDA and SOPA will enable.
D. it relies on RIAA and others not running their own tor node
E. all of the above rely on PirateBay remaining in business - which
partially relies on *not* hosting actual torrent files (switching to
magnets only) allowing them to remain in business. I wouldn't bet on it
- neither does Rupert Murdock.

A 'possible' future will ban tor as it will ban bittorrent.

- From a purely hypothetical point of view I can think of four methods
that would (likely) work (the first one preceded PirateBay). None of
them specifically Debian related ;-p

<snipped>

> 
> The IP in Germany only is given by a judicial decision. How do the
> lawyers argument to get a judicial decision?
> 

Most of the time it never gets to court - just a threatening letter and
a demand of payment. If you look at what SOPA and PIPA want to do you
won't see much mention of courts being involved. ACTA would mean an
international treaty, which generally takes precedence over federal laws
(IANAL).

The thin end of the wedge is the monitoring for a three strike policy -
which doesn't involve courts. Once the mechanisms are in place it may be
a different story.


Kind regards


- -- 
"Oh sorry, I was taking life seriously."
— Bill Hicks
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