Why would you love to "upgrade software incrementally all the time"?? Its stable/tested, CERTIFIEd to work fine, that's all.. Move to another distro like fedora if you love to "upgrade software incrementally all the time". kn ------ Or, run Testing, I run Testing and almost never have issues with things breaking. Debians Stable/Testing/Sid system is perfect if you ask me... TeddyB