Dne, 13. 02. 2011 10:39:20 je Travis napisal(a):
sorry for using this email but i stopped helping linux years ago(i still donate tho) when the bug systems got outta wack super-geek only usability...
The Reportbug utility you get with a stock Debian/Gnome install is absolutely newbie-friendly (even I can use it, which tells a lot).
any ways, do an install with b43 wireless card and don't feed it firmware. this breaks the network and then the updates and then the voltial line inapt sources.
The move towards a firmware-free kernel was quite prominently advertised on Debian-related sites and in articles all over the Internet. While it poses practical challenges to the average user, it is welcomed as a move in the right direction by many Debian users, me humbly included.
in other wordsif someone attempts to install debian on a laptop its going to be a bitch toget working if they haven't used linux for years.
Agreed, Debian is somewhat messy to install without a working Internet connection. It was the same with Lenny. If you want an out-of-the-box Debian for Dummies, just install Ubuntu.
the tail-tell sign is, after the get there system installed synaptic works funny, but works-ish, and if they try apt-get <anything> it fails with amethod errorsorry but i hate all linux's for what they've become ( i miss old mandrake 7.2 ) and debian was the last hope, now i'm not so sure :-(, automagic isEVIL!
Admittedly, some changes have been for the worse, but several have been for the better. Unfortunately, the Linux community never seems to quite agree which is which ... ;)
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