Re: How to reduce a debian system to a base system
On Friday 19 March 2010 03:52:44 pm Mike Viau wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:31:44 -0300 <rogluz.news@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Ok the bigger problem you should have is "what is a base system"
>
> I agree, what a base system means can be different among users.
I was refering to what Debian calls a 'base' intall and 'standard'. When you
install Debian (net install) the base system is installed, then a reboot is done
to install any 'tasksel' (gnome the default or alternate desktops) items. i
think 'standard' packages are added if you allow aptitude to run after the first
reboot without selecting any additional tasks. hope this makes sense.
>
> >You could run in another box a installation and get a list of the basic
> > system packages, but what do you want the box for? give us a user case
> > and we would try to sort this mess out for you.
>
> Thanks :)
>
> >Definitely purging X is a must -- that will take down about 90% of the
> > "flavour" packages and none of the essential stuff, could you not start
> > there ?
>
> Absolutely, I think that would be a good place to start
>
> >Do you need SQL ? Mail ? Apache ... etc ...
>
> Not at the moment. My hopes are to remove all the packages that have been
> installed as time progressed after the initial installation. I am fine with
> keeping the later versions that were not present on the installation media
> I used.
>
> >A use case would be great ... or is this a experiment?
>
> I suppose I can classify this as an experiment case, whereas I will likely
> later on try out various (which may include Apache, Samba, whatever really,
> etc) Debian packages on the system. This time I plan to keep better track
> of what I have installed so that the packages can be purged easily when I
> am finished with the application.
>
>
> Rogerio
>
> 2010/3/19 Greg Madden <gomadtroll@acsalaska.net>
>
> On Friday 19 March 2010 01:09:20 pm Mike Viau wrote:
> > > Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:31:40 +0100
> > >
> > > From: iodine@runbox.no
> > >
> > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: How to reduce a debian system to a base system
> > >
> > > Mike Viau wrote:
> > > > In essence I would like to revert my system back to a freshly
> > > >
> > > > installed state, without reinstalling. Ultimatly is this possible?
> > >
> > > -snip-
> > >
> > > > I was hoping to find a solution for a currently running Debian system
> > > >
> > > > rather then to create a bare bone baseline or image...
> > >
> > > Wouldn't the easiest way be to backup all important data and
> > >
> > > reinstall? That _should_ give the same end result. But if that
> > >
> > > isn't a viable option for you, please explain why. Is this perhaps
> > >
> > > a remote server that you can't get your hands on, I can see how
> > >
> > > that would be a problem.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Odd
> >
> > I do have physical access to the box, but it does not have an optical
> > drive
> >
> > to make re-installation painless. I temporarily borrowed a USB drive that
> >
> > is not with me anymore. The hardware is very recent and last time I tried
> >
> > to used the net install disk the e1000e driver I was unable to detect my
> >
> > network card and the Debian setup insisted that I was to use Ethernet
> > over
> >
> > Firewire.
>
> Would be nice to have a 'snapshot' feature to revert to. I have used
> aptitude
>
> (dselect) to get close to a standard install, base + standard is not that
> many
>
> packages, no X.
>
>
>
> It is a bit tedious, but it can be done, Search for and purge xorg, gnome
> stuff.
>
> Aptitude remembers packages that have been installed as recommends and will
> prompt
>
> you to offer to remove them. 'deborphan' can help find & remove orphaned
>
> libraries.
>
>
>
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>
> --
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> Peace
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>
> Greg Madden
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