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> From: owens@netptc.net
> To: motamedi24@hotmail.com; debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: RE: Decompiler?
> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:26:31 -0800
>
> >
> >
> >
> >---- Original Message ----
> >From: motamedi24@hotmail.com
> >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> >Subject: RE: Decompiler?
> >Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 05:11:07 +0000
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 07:28:01 -0500
> >>> From: zlinuxman@wowway.com
> >>> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> >>> Subject: Re: Decompiler?
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 05:06:21 -0500 (EST), Hadi Motamedi wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Dear All
> >>> >
> >>> > I have disassembled the object file on my Debian server , by the
> >following :
> >>> >
> >>> > #objdump wmain
> >>> >
> >>> > In the output , I have recognized the intended subroutine that I
> >need to
> >>> > find the exact command syntax that it sends out. To this end, I
> >asked
> >>> > you guys on how to capture it through 'tcpdump' but didn't
> >success. I
> >>> > read this segment assembly language code but it is somewhat
> >difficult to
> >>> > decode. Can you please let me know what Debian decompiler is
> >suitable for
> >>> > this case? I tried with 'decompyle' but it didn't get through.
> >>>
> >>> First, let me make sure I understand what you are asking. You have
> >some
> >>> binary object code and you want to transform it back into the C
> >source
> >>> code that it came from. Is that right? Or did I misunderstand you?
> >>>
> >>> If that is what you want, then I doubt that it is possible. I've
> >never
> >>> heard of a decompiler. I have heard of a disassembler, but even
> >they
> >>> have their limitations. I myself have done extensive work as a
> >programmer
> >>> on a disassembler for the s390 platform. It happens to be the
> >disassembler
> >>> resident in the TRACK for z/VM freeware program. So I am speaking
> >from
> >>> experience here. Even a disassembler is a guess. Here are some
> >things that
> >>> you lose, even in a disassembler:
> >>>
> >>> 1. All comments.
> >>> 2. The names of all variables
> >>> 3. The distinction between code and data> >>>
> >>> For example, if I encounter the hex string '41101004' that could
> >be a
> >>>
> >>> LA 1,4(,1)
> >>>
> >>> instruction. But it might not be an instruction. It might be data.
> >It
> >>> might be
> >>>
> >>> DC F'1091571716'
> >>>
> >>> Or maybe it's a floating point number in traditional s390
> >hexadecimal
> >>> floating point format. Or maybe it's part of an escape sequence of
> >codes
> >>> to be sent to a printer. You can never be sure. All these
> >uncertainties
> >>> are present in a disassembler. In assembly language, there is
> >pretty much
> >>> a one-to-one correspondence between assembler instructions and
> >machine
> >>> instructions. But in a high- level language, that is not so. A
> >single
> >>> statement in source code may generate a long sequence of machine
> >instructions.
> >>> How do you know where one statement ends and another begins?
> >>>
> >>> In short, I doubt if it is possible. Even if you do find something
> >that
> >>> purports to be a decompiler, its output will almost certainly not
> >match
> >>> the original input. Compilation is a one-way process.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Thank you for your reply . Actually my Debian server is running an
> >application program that sends commands toward an attached network
> >element . The commands deal with 'profile read' , 'profile modify' ,
> >and 'profile delete' issues . On the application gui , there is an
> >option to try for 'profile replace' that I cannot find the related
> >command . As there is a need to try for this 'profile replace' in
> >batch file , so I need to find the exact command syntax for this
> >purpose . I tried to capture it through tracing with 'tcpdump' but it
> >was un-successful . So I dis-assembled the code and I was lucky to
> >find the related subroutine . It is short in length but I cannot
> >decode it to find the logic in behind . So I need to find a
> >de-compiler to de-compile it to some sor t of higher level languages
> >to see if I can understand the login behind . Please give me a hint
> >on how to accomplish this .
> >>
> >>
> I think you already got your answer although you may not like it. If
> the program was written in assembler than a dis-assembler will give
> you the source code; however even if you have that you still do not
> have the whole picture (e.g. the symbol tables). If the program was
> written in a HLL such as C I know of no way to go from the machine
> code back to the source code. In fact looking at the machine code
> won't even tell you what HLL the source was written in or what
> compiler was used. I think you are proceeding down the wrong path.
> Larry
> >>
> >>
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Thank you for your reply . It seems that this case is closed .

 


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