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Re: Two Lenny problems

On Monday 22 February 2010 16:44:41 Stephen Powell wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 09:57:42 -0500 (EST), Lisi wrote:
> > On Monday 22 February 2010 14:45:11 Stephen Powell wrote:
> >> I earlier recommended gedit, which is a graphical text
> >> editor for the GNOME desktop environment.  I thought that's what you
> >> were running.  I didn't realize you were using KDE.
> >
> > Kwrite in KDE is a good compromise between vi and word-processors, and I
> > would say is at a similar "level" to gedit in Gnome.  Assuming KDE 3.5.x;
> The reason that I don't recommend the use of word processors to edit
> text files, even though they *can*, is that by default they usually
> save their files in a word-processing format, rather than as plain text.
> Having no experience with KDE, I assumed that Kwrite was a word processor.
> Apparently not.  My mistake.  But I also wanted to give him some
> experience with an editor that can be used in a virtual console environment
> (i.e. with no X server running).  Some day he may do something, such as
> hose up his X config file, that will prevent his X server from starting.
> As a matter of fact, I've helped a couple of users recently who
> couldn't get their X servers to run.  The last I checked, one of them
> still can't.  If Cecil can't use any non-graphical editors, he'll be up a
> creek without a paddle in this situation.  Also, getting his Kwrite session
> to run as root is an additional complication.  I don't know about KDE, but
> GNOME, by default, doesn't even allow the root user to login to the X
> console. Since I don't know how to get Kwrite to run as root, I suggested
> nano in a terminal session as root, which is very intuitive.
> In the final analysis, I don't care what text editor he uses, as long as
> he can get it to run under the root user.
> But I thought I should explain the rationale behind my recommendation.
> Besides, he used to use DOS;
> so the command line interface is not completely foreign to him.

I agree - but I must confess to using Kwrite myself if I have X available.  If 
not, of course, I use Vi/Vim - tho' even there I use Vim if it is 
available. :-(

In Lenny with KDE, running an X application as root can, I think, only be done 
via kdesu and the Launcher.


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