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Re: Java plugins in 64bit Debian

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 03:56:13PM -0500, Stephen Powell wrote:
> On 2010-01-11 at 15:32:54 -0500, Alex Samad wrote:
> > for some reason we (the user of debian) are being pushed to use icedtea
> > and its java plugin, I don't have a problem with this except for the
> > fact that the plugin isn't a drop in replacement for the sun plugin, but
> > its turning into a grin and bear it.
> Sun Java is not "free" in the sense of "freedom".  In other words, it does
> not meet the Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG).  That is also why
> Sun Java is relegated to the "non-free" portion of the Debian archive.
> Unless and until Sun decides to release their software under a license
> that meets the standards of the DFSG, it will never be the default java
> code on a Debian system.  That is pretty much guaranteed by the Debian
> Social Contract.

I am not arguing that, and I agree with what you have said about them
making it free.

The issue is the icedtea plugin is touted as a replacement for the sun
plugin, and it clearly doesn't work properly 

> If you want Sun Java, you'll have to install it yourself.

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