On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 03:56:13PM -0500, Stephen Powell wrote: > On 2010-01-11 at 15:32:54 -0500, Alex Samad wrote: > > for some reason we (the user of debian) are being pushed to use icedtea > > and its java plugin, I don't have a problem with this except for the > > fact that the plugin isn't a drop in replacement for the sun plugin, but > > its turning into a grin and bear it. > > Sun Java is not "free" in the sense of "freedom". In other words, it does > not meet the Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG). That is also why > Sun Java is relegated to the "non-free" portion of the Debian archive. > Unless and until Sun decides to release their software under a license > that meets the standards of the DFSG, it will never be the default java > code on a Debian system. That is pretty much guaranteed by the Debian > Social Contract. I am not arguing that, and I agree with what you have said about them making it free. The issue is the icedtea plugin is touted as a replacement for the sun plugin, and it clearly doesn't work properly > > If you want Sun Java, you'll have to install it yourself. > >
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