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Re: KDE, openoffice bug




Dotan Cohen wrote:
Red, it seems that you replied directly to me instead of the mailing
list. I am ccing the mailing list to keep the discussion onlist.
Okay, sorry about that. I tried installing the bugs program, but it wanted to take out other programs that I use... I've disabled HTML for this mailing.
WOW! You are FAST! Thank you.
Below, you will see that your HTML formatted mail destroyed the
quoting hierarchy, so you may want to disable HTML mail for the
mailing list. In fact, the mailing list etiquette guidelines forbit
HTML mail!
The KDE release is 3.5.10; I know that the system does not COME with
firefox, but I installed firefox 3.5 from tarballs downloaded at the mozilla
website. It's installed in my /home/alyssa/firefox folder, and I have tried
using three different paths in the component chooser --- none of which maes
any difference : /home/alyssa/firefox/firefox ; /home/alyssa/bin/firefox;
and also just plain firefox; I just tried /usr/bin/firefox as well, and that
did not work, either, (though the firefox in the last path is a virtual
link, not the actual executable)
Another poster mentioned that the KDE settings do not affect OOo. This
seems related to a bug I filed recently:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=197727

If it is a KDE issue and not an OOo issue, then I will add that info
to the bug and change it's title appropriately. Thank you for the tip.
In the meantime, have you tried the other method "the right way",
really that Tom suggested?
I am not sure if it's an OOo issue; it might be. HOWEVER, the KDE system/environment DOES recognize Firefox as the default for web addresses from inside all other KDE and non-KDE programs, e.g. Thunderbird, audio and video programs, and so on. It's ONLY inside OOo that Firefox is not recognized as the system default.

Sorry, what is "the right way," that Tom suggested? Can you send me a link to those instructions or block quote them below? (Thank you.)

(Another probram I have with OOo, which MAY or MAY NOT be related is something that also developed late in my use of Mandriva 2008 version. I used that prior to switching to Debian Etch (and now Lenny) about 2 years ago. I frequently cut and paste from web pages into OOo writer --- as a way of saving data and notes, all in one document. But if there are little yellow cells, or "notes" embedded in the web pages, when I paste them onto an OpenOffice writer doc, the whole OOo program crashes. In Mandriva, this was a CRITCAL issue. It was the final straw that drove me away from Mandriva. In Debian, it's only started recently, and is infrequent --- but still troubling.) The main issue for the moment, though, is getting OOo writer to open links with the default Firefox browser I have designated.
Here, I correct your mailer's HTML quoting for clarity
If I then attempt to switch to a firefox browser, the system first downloads
a file of the page in question and then opens the FILE with firefox. This is
unacceptable. I want to be able to browse the web with firefox 3.5  located
in my home  directory without Konqueror as an intermediary. I do not want
Konqui to open from inside openoffice documents AT ALL.
I am talking about opening html web pages and html documents from links
embedded within my openoffice documents.
If the file is HTML, what program would you expect to open it other
than Firefox?
No other program, that is the point. I want Firefox to be my default browser for all web-based URLs, no matter what program I use.

Konqueror is okay for desktop windows and system files.

In OOo, however, I want Firefox to be the default browser to open all web-based URLs and links, like it is in all other end user applications. So far, though I have only been able to open links inside OOo documents with Konqueror.

It's CRITICAL you know --- I never had this problem in earlier versions of KDE, when I was working on the Mandriva distribution.

(I had LOTS of other problems with Mandriva (!) which is why I finally quit using that distribution. There were massive numbers of bugs. But this problem was not one of them. That's another reason I am not sure it is a KDE bug --- unless it's a bug that developed in the later KDE 3.2 and 3.5 versions.

I frequently embed links into articles, as required by online publications. However, when I am working on these documents, and want to check the efficacy of links within the openoffice documents, only Konqui will open them. KDE does use firefox for everything else, but NOT to open links inside
openoffice documents. (Mind you, I am NOT talking about opening openoffice
documents with firefox! I want to be able to open embedded links WITHIN
OpenOffice documents with firefox.) There does not seem to be any setting in
OpenOffice to specify the broswer to open embedded links. And I can'f dind
any discussion on firefox, debian, openoffice or kde discussion boards about
this specific problem. But I have been grappling with it since installing
etch about 1.5 years ago. I never had this specific problem with Mandriva.
Debian, on the other
hand, just does not recognize forefox as my main broswer, when I open links
in openoffice docs. Debian's issues with copyright should have nothing
whatever to do with this, as firefox is installed properly and works for
EVERYTHING else, including all updates and broswer add-ons
Apparently, either KDE is setting a KDE-only setting (likely) or OOo
is not respecting the system default (unlikely).

If as I suspect KDE is setting only the KDE setting, and not the
system setting, then you need to set the system setting be an
alternative means, such as Tom suggested above.
Again, I don't think the problem is KDE. All the other programs I'm running, including non-KDE programs like eg Thunderbird, and audio and video programs, recognize Firefox as the system default.

On the other hand, I'm not a developer, or professional "hacker." I could be missing some detail that would resolve the question. But my favorite Linux buddy checked it out. He's been using Linux 10 years and writes programs --- and he couldn't figure out this problem, either. He uses Debian also, and Firefox 3.5, and he does NOT have this problem in OOo writer.

Maybe Tom's "right way" instructions" will help. Please direct me to them, I'll try to do it, and get back to you.

In other words, what non-KDE tool can I use to change the system setting, and HOW?

I am REALLY a novice when it comes to editing system or /etc files. My personal "Linux guru" (mentioned above) warned me NEVER to do this without his supervision, or I could break the whole system.

So, please be very specific, because I'm not a total techi -- and certainly not when it comes to editing system setting files!!!! I respectfully request instructions in steps, 1) 2) 3) (and so on) with basic layman's English --- and no technological jargon or "shortcuts." I don't understand the meaning of half the "Linux-only" words.

Many many kind and gracious thanks to one and all!
THANK YOU again for your speedy reply, and any help you can suggest!!!!
Happily!


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