[Date Prev][Date Next] [Thread Prev][Thread Next] [Date Index] [Thread Index]

Re: Debian's glacial movement--a rant

Freddy Freeloader wrote:
Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 01:06:00PM -0700, Freddy Freeloader wrote:
Michael Biebl wrote:
Freddy Freeloader wrote:

I'm experiencing a bug in Gnucash that appeared a couple of days ago on my system that makes Gnucash completely unusable for me. I turned in a bug report on Friday, checked on it yesterday, and by today the bug had been blocked from being displayed. It could be found by searching Debian's bug tracker, but only if you know the bug id number. If you just search for bugs in Gnucash the bug does not appear to exist.

The bug was closed, and blocked, because it's been fixed upstream in version 2.2.9 which was released by Gnucash in February of this year.

Could you discuss how you're experiencing a new bug ("appeared a couple
of days ago") if you're not using gnucach in a new way? I'm sure there
are bugs in every piece of software I use. There are a couple of which
I am aware (if I care to think on it) but I have work-arounds or I
wouldn't have accepted the software for use and would have chosen a
different solution. I've never run into the "appeared a couple of days
ago" situation where the problem was a new bug; the problem has always
been in a different system (or is upstream of the keyboard :))

Sorry I didn't answer this sooner, but I just now saw your message.

I didn't change anything other than running an apt-get update && apt-get upgrade. I was using Gnucash in exactly the same way I had for last the year. It just started crashing after that when I would close a tab that was created automatically during creating and posting vendor invoices or customer bills.

New bug or old bug I don't know. All I know was it was new to me as I'd been using Gnucash for more than a year to keep track of my business and suddenly it just didn't work correctly any more.

But, that's all right. Just keep on blaming me. I'm surely at fault. Hell, I had only been using Gnucash for a year. An imbecile like me couldn't possibly have developed a stable work flow in that amount of time. I probably did things differently inside of Gnucash every day for that entire year....

Starting Gnucash and closing tabs inside it are such technically challenging tasks that users have a very difficult time doing them correctly and that most likely explains why Gnucash suddenly began to fail to open account files at startup too. It's gotta be the stupid user's fault.

Funny ain't it though how the upstream version, 2.2.9, has a bug fix for this. I guess they call it the "stupid-user patch", and that's why they won't backport the patch to 2.2.6.

Just an update on this. I have asked on #gnucash if the patch for this bug can be backported to 2.2.6 upstream and they say this is a Debian problem as it is fixed in Gnucash. They will not do anything to help.

Here's the short conversation from #gnucash.

* Now talking on #gnucash
* Topic for #gnucash is: Free GPL Personal and Small Business Accounting || Please don't ask to ask, just ask and wait! || publically-logged channel || latest stable: 2.2.9
* Topic for #gnucash set by jsled at Wed May 6 07:46:39 2009
<garyk> Is it possible to have the patch for bug #564928 backported to 2.2.6? I have all my business records in gnucash and this bug crashes gnucash every time I start it. I run Debian and who knows how long it will take for Debian to catch up. Right now they are almost a year behind in version numbers. * twunder (~twunder@pool-96-234-154-75.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) has joined #gnucash
* warlord-afk is now known as warlord
<warlord> garyk: you need to ask that of Debian. The GnuCash releases dont have the bug.
* warlord is now known as warlord-afk
<garyk> The Debian devs say it needs to be done upstream as they won't/can't backport the patch. That's why I asked here.

This looks to be the classic answer given by my stepkids when they were growing up and didn't want to take responsibility for anything: Who's responsible? Not me..... Not me was responsible for everything done wrong in our house for a couple of years. I didn't know one person could get into that much mischief all their own. ;)

Gnucash version 2.2.6 was released July 31, 2008. The fixed version of Gnucash, 2.2.9 was released February 4, 2009. It's now May 11, 2009 and counting. The patch for this critical bug was released 3 months ago and nothing has been done. It's now 5 weeks since I was told I was being a jerk for saying Debian was slow in moving on this as they were 3 versions, and 9 months, behind. Well, Debian is now 3 versions and 10 months behind, and the patch has been available for 120+ days while the bug has been archived in Debian since the day after it was reported.

It couldn't be that this critical bug just isn't on anyone's list of priorities could it?

Reply to: