Re: BSD handbook - was Re: debiantutorials.org seeks input and new blood
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Bret Busby <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 2 May 2009, Neal Hogan wrote:
>> On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Douglas A. Tutty <email@example.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 06:27:44AM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote:
>>>> FYI - While many of the fBSD folks will tout there ports/package
>>>> system, I found it to be a pain (especially the upgrade), as did many
>>>> others. There has recently been some chatter on their general mailing
>>>> list to overhaul how they handle packages. Again, I found oBSD's
>>>> package handling system to be superior.
>>> Last I looked (last week), OBSD doesn't have security updates (patches)
>>> for their packages; they only provide patches for the base release. If
>>> you want to run -current, then the packages get security patches. Since
>>> I'm on dialup, that would mean a lot of bandwidth time; basically, every
>>> time firefox or some third-party app required a security fix, I'd have
>>> to download the source for _everything_ and recompile _everything_.
>> I don't want to labor this point here, but just one more thing. If you
>> are going to follow current, the recommended way to go about it is to
>> do binary upgrades of the kernel (i.e, snapshots). You don't have to
>> compile src every time. The same goes for packages, binary snapshots
>> of which are updated every few months or so (probably not that often).
> Maybe it's too complicated for me.
> I was only ever a user on someone else's (educational instritution's) BSD
> system, and did not do, or learn, sysadmin on BSD.
> As a Linux user since around Red Hat 4 or 5, I have never compiled anything
> in Linux, and have relied on package management, and have had problems with
> software that involved using.tar.gz files to install, to the extent that I
> gave up on any package that involved using .tar.gz files to install.
> So, if BSD is more complicated than using package management like RPM in Red
> Hat and .deb in Debian/Ubuntu, then it is probably too complicated for me.
It's not . . . http://www.openbsd.org/ports.html
> Bret Busby
> West Australia
> "So once you do know what the question actually is,
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> published by Pan Books, 1992