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Running testing? -- read this.



----- Forwarded message from Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org> -----

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From: Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org>
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:14:03 -0500
To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#484129: release.debian.org: packages in tasks should be fixed in priority and removed in last resort after
	discussion

On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 12:05:45 -0400, Joey Hess <joeyh@debian.org> said: 

> Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>> I thought I had answered that. The only version that th project
>> releases for end users is stable.

> Debian has been releasing versions of testing for end users for years.

        This is perhaps a matter of semantics.

        Where I come from, when you are testing something, it is not
 "released". Releases, in my view, have release numbers, so people can
 refer to them in bugs and recommend to other folks; our testing is
 volatile, and changes at least daily.  I do agree that microsoft has
 blurred issue, but releasing things early to paying consumers to test,
 but hey.

        We call it testing for a reason: it is a a branch for testing
 what our next release will be. Do we try to keep it as close to a
 viable release as we can? Sure. Do we try to make it easy for people to
 test? Absolutely.  But it would be diseembling to pretend that this
 version is anything but a test version of a product under development,
 and that stuff happens with development versions.

        People who run our test versions are part of our community, they
 are helping us test our development packages.  We will not make things
 harder for them than they need to be, but they should also not be
 shielded from the fact (and it is a fact) that what they are ending up
 installing is a test version of a product under development.

        I also made an assumption: an end user is one who does not care
 to be a early adopter guinea pig; and for people who do not care for
 breakage and do not want to participate in product development and
 testing, the only variant we produce is called the stable release

        manoj
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