only thing that i have ever had in /var/archives are the md5sum's and tarballs for backups created by backup manager (needless to say i have since sent backup manager to /dev/null) jwlockhart Registered Linux User #458799 Registered Kubuntu User #19678 this user is penguin powered ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs