Re: a dumb query? pls humor me
On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 16:33:28 -0700, zfh wrote in
[🔎] 360937.25915.qm@web83205.mail.mud.yahoo.com:
> Sorry to break into your offtopic rants, but I can't resist this one.
> Under the Geneva Conventions, enemy combatants that wear no uniforms and
..like the passengers onboard flight UA93 on 9/11?
> commit acts of murder and sabotage are considered to be spies and may be
..you speak of murderers, saboteurs and spies, who may only be shot after
having received a verdict so ordering in a trial for the murderer, and in
an Article 90 hearing _and_ a trial for the saboteur and the spy. The
latter 2 generally need to commit some war crime to earn a verdict, but
can still be held as POW for the duration of the war without committing
any war crimes, read especially the commentary to Article 46 for
background:
http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/WebART/470-750056?OpenDocument
http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/COM/470-750056?OpenDocument
> leagaly shot on sight.
..this applies only to mercenaries, who first needs to be identified as
such under Article 47:
http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/WebART/470-750057?OpenDocument
http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/COM/470-750057?OpenDocument
> During the cold war, the understanding developed that everyone has
> spies and that if you don't kill mine I won't kill yours.
..true, and irrelevant, as the high contracting powers instead agreed to
go after mercenaries.
> Are you old enough to remember that famous antiwar photo from
> the Tet offensive in Vietnam of an ARVN soldier shooting a captured
> vietcong agent in the head? Under the geneva convention, that was
> legal.
..citation? ;o)
> Al Queda and the Taliban don't care about anyones rights or
> freedoms. We need to follow the rules because we are who we are and
> need to stay that way if free nations are to survive. Though there have
> been some abuses, military tribunals and Gitmo are not necessarily
> outside the rules when dealing with an organized terrorist threat.
..really? ;o) They are. On one line:
http://www.icrc.org/web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/html/ihl-article-300906?
opendocument
..a good starting point for further reading:
http://www.icrc.org/web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/htmlall/section_ihl_in_brief?
OpenDocument
--
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o)
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
Scenarios always come in sets of three:
best case, worst case, and just in case.
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