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Re: Up-to-date Gnome versions?



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On 09/21/07 17:31, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:43:28 -0500, Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> said: 
> 
>> On 09/21/07 10:46, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 07:39:20AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>>> On 09/21/07 00:43, Miles Bader wrote:
>>>>> Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> writes:
>>>>>> The archives are replete with very valid reasons why people don't
>>>>>> trust aptitude.
>>>>> Not really.  A lot of vague rumors flying about though.
>>>> Vague rumors to you, first-hand experience to me.
>>> I know you, and many others, have had trouble with aptitude, but I
>>> feel its important to point out that aptitude does what one tells it
>>> too. Now, one may be unintentionally telling it to do something one
>>> doesn't want, but that is another issue.
> 
>> "# aptitude upgrade" doesn't mean "remove GNOME, perl and everything
>> they depend on".
> 
>         And that has not happened to me.  Seems like if that is hte best
>  solution aptitude came up with for you, the package state on that
>  machine was strange; and that would mean surely things will rise up and
>  bite you at some later point.

But at the same time, "#apt-get upgrade" worked perfectly.

>         If ever aptitude (and not, thankfully, apt, in Sid) try and
>  delete hug swaths of stuff, it would well behoove you to find out
>  why -- usually, it is a Sid issue, and goes away after new processing,
>  or the next upload, or something. 

Like I said, apt-get never wanted to remove packages.  Sometimes it
would hold back *lots* of packages, but never remove them.

>>> Thankfully, we have choice in the matter and can use the
>>> package-manager of choice. :)
> 
>> This is true.
> 
>         Now that libapt has gotten the same algorithms aptitude uses,
>  perhaps apt-get, aptitude, and synaptic behaviour will be closer to
>  each others than it has been in the past.

I've noticed recently that now apt-get occasionally *suggests* that
certain obsolete packages be remove.  And that's good.

- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA  USA

Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day.
Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!

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