Re: Sex spam again on the list
On Sunday 09 September 2007 15:08, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
> Hi Nigel,
>
> On Sun Sep 09, 2007 at 21:15:32 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote:
> > This has got more than a joke now. We are being bombarded with s-x spam
> > yet again. I can't send it to Spamcop because it will identify the list
> > as the sender.
>
> True, and you will most probably also get kicked from the lists by us.
>
> > Come on Murphy, get your act together, get the sawn-off out of it's case,
> > and filter these spammers off the list. One way or the other I couldn't
> > care less how you do it. If their, what passes for brains end up
> > splaterred over the nearest wall is no big deal to me.
>
> There might be two or more reasons why you get more spam since a couple
> of day. One is, that since about a week or so we get drastic more spam
> which also morphs that fast, that the self-learning filters can't adjust
> that quickly.
>
> Another reason is that the listmasters did a drastic redesign of the
> whole spamfilter of murphy.debian.org this weekend. Doing this required
> also to drop and retrain all the dynamic filers we have, so you might
> have seen a bit of more spam the last hours. That should self-regulate
> the next couple of hours.
>
> > I've got bogofilter running on Kmail, but because of the high volume on
> > the list, Debian-user is filtered before bogofilter has a go at the
> > remaining stuff. Most of the pe-is size related stuff ends up in the
> > trash, where it belongs, but I'm stuck with the spam that get's filtered
> > into individual mailing boxes before bogofilter has a go at it.
>
> Actually you can be lucky that you are not subscribed to
> lists.debian.org before the spam-filter. I needed to do that today, to
> find some nasty errors in our new setup, which really sucked. Watching
> your INBOX grow by ~50 Mails / min per Debian mailing list is not fun
> at all. JFTR, read Joeys blog[1] to get some ideas on the numbers.
> Currently about 99.5% of all incoming mail to lists.debian.org is
> discarded before it gets delivered. On a bad day you might see perhaps
> ~10% of the still delivered mail being spam, which means, that actually
> only 0.05% of all incoming spam is being delivered to the lists, a rate
> which i think is acceptable from the listmaster PoV. Even though we try
> to do better every day.
>
> > Sorry if this sounds a bit sarcastic, but I'm feeling sarcastic at the
> > moment, as I don't want this cr-p on my machine.
> >
> > I don't have a shotgun, or hunting rifle, but I'd be game for an
> > organised shoot if the spammers were the targets.
>
> A thing every user can do is to bounce spam delivered to the lists to
> reportspam@lists.debian.org.
WOW, I've been here for years & that's the first time I recall seeing that.
Thanks Martin!
> Best you use mutt's bounce-function or
> Kmails redirect function for that, so the headers don't get modified, so
> we can directly us that emails to train our filters to do better.
>
> And if you find we should add more or better rules to our spamfilter,
> feel free to send patches for [2].
>
> Greetings
>
> Martin, having his listmaster's hat on and being VERY tired, as the
> listmasters had a quite productive weekend with nearly up to no sleep at
> all.
>
> [1] http://www.infodrom.org/~joey/log/?200709091425
> [2]
> http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-listmaster/trunk/spamassassin_config/?rev=0&;
>sc=0 --
> [root@debian /root]# man real-life
> No manual entry for real-life
--
John W. Foster
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