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Re: pros/cons of installing from source



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Greg Folkert wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-05-03 at 13:59 +0100, yag wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I would like to know whether installing from source rather than 
>> from the repositories has any advantage in terms of performance or 
>> something else. I didn't notice any difference when comparing 
>> mplayer's behavior, although compiling it myself gave me the choice 
>> of fine tuning the available codecs as well as installing the very 
>> latest version, for instance.
> 
> This is not Gentoo. Gentoo's vision of "maximum performance" is a great
> effort, but in reality is far from optimal.
> 
> For every report of "Woot! Compiling from source kicks butt. Why didn't
> I do this earlier", I can find 1 that disagrees with you and 1 that says
> "maybe it is worth it for max performance, but WOW, 196 hours to get a
> workable complete system, I'm not so sure"
> 
> The statistics I find important are the massive amount of testing some
> have done (I leave that upto the reader to find, should you need help
> finding it, please ask the list to help find it). These people have done
> installs of LFS/Gentoo and other source distributions and "highly
> optimized" the compilation process. Following multiple "best guides" to
> compile by. In the end, it really depends on WHAT you want to
> accomplish.
> 
> Given that most of the things that "typically matter" like word
> processing and surfing the internet and listening to music... playing
> cards, etc. I would hazard to say that:
> 
>         No it is not worth the time and effort to "install from source"
> 
> The reason I say this, is even if you get 1%-5% improvement in
> performance, are you really going to see (really and truly "feel") it?
> The answer is: no.
> 
> Now, if you are doing nothing but ripping DVD or encoding MPEG files or
> doing full CGI animation renderings which sometimes take WEEKS to finish
> the sequence, then even 1% improvement may in fact be worth it. But then
> again, recompiling everything takes a very high amount of time and then
> you are just competing for processor time from the "rendering". In
> business terms it would be cheaper to just ad a few more machines.
> 
> One last point, if compiling from source is so great, why does Gentoo
> supply pre-compiled binaries for about 95% of the available packages
> that can be emerge'd on any one system? The answer is: Because compiling
> take a very long time and people are impatient. They want Gentoo for the
> "elitism" aspect of Gentoo, but none of the waiting.
> 
> So, in summary, there are a few situations where compiling from source
> is desirable. But in general, you will not notice the difference. The
> only thing you will have done is add to the eventual heat death of the
> universe.

Exactly the point I was trying to make, but you said much better than I
did.  Greg, you really are an eloquent GNU/Linux guru.  Kudos.

Joe

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