Hardware Change ... how to Update
All I want is to plug-in my modem, give command(s) (can any one tell me what will be
those) so that Debian could recognize my new modem, and then I can make dial-up
connection settings and use internet.
Broadband is not cheap for average user, in this part of world :)
Thanks
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> debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 946
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> Today's Topics:
> Re: REALLY OT: News Flash [ Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> ]
> Re: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y, ACPI, [ Nick Lidakis <nlidakis@verizon.net> ]
> Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debi [ Max Hyre <max@hyre.net> ]
> Re: /dev/tty perms for xlinks2 [ Kent West <westk@acu.edu> ]
> Re: getmail configuration (How to ru [ Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.org ]
> Re: Apt-listbugs Problems (OK) [ David Baron <d_baron@012.net.il> ]
> Re: /dev/tty perms for xlinks2 [ Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmai ]
> Re: nVidia MCP55 (was: Slow internet [ "Dave Stephenson" <dastephenson232@ ]
> Re: nVidia MCP55 (was: Slow internet [ Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmai ]
> Re: Hardware Change .... How to upda [ Jochen Schulz <ml@well-adjusted.de> ]
> Re: nVidia MCP55 (was: Slow internet [ Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmai ]
> Re: nVidia MCP55 (was: Slow internet [ "Dave Stephenson" <dastephenson232@ ]
> Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debi [ Michael Pobega <pobega@gmail.com> ]
> Re: getmail configuration (How to ru [ Owen Heisler <owenh000@gmail.com> ]
> Re: getmail configuration (How to ru [ Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmai ]
> Looking for a RTSP proxy [ Marco De Vitis <starless@spin.it> ]
> Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debi [ Roberto =?iso-8859-1?Q?C=2E_S=E1nch ]
> > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:35:57 -0500
> From: Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: REALLY OT: News Flash
>
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> On 03/27/07 15:28, Paul E Condon wrote:
> [snip]
> >
> > As to the respect for all Prophets, 'the Prophet' always means
> > Mohammed. Mohammed is the last in a sequence of prophets, not merely
> > the most recent. There will be no more prophets, according to their
> > belief. The job of revealing stuff to mankind is done. Any differences
> > in the several revelations are always resolved in favor of the last
> > prophet. He is surely the greatest prophet. There is not much
> > room for compromise in this position that I can see. When muslims
> > speak of tolerance, it is not in the same sense as that of Catholics
> > tolerating Jews in the modern world. Unbelievers are tolerated only if
> > they have been given a special protected status by the Sultan (no
> > democracy here). This tolerance is out of respect for the Sultan, not
> > out of respect of some idea of human rights. It is a very different
> > world view from that of modern Europe, or America. In nature (red in
> > tooth and claw) it may have greater survival value than my own
> > beliefs, or that of Christians or Jews.
>
> That last sentence is very insightful.
>
> - --
> Ron Johnson, Jr.
> Jefferson LA USA
>
> Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day.
> Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!
>
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> > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:30:42 -0400
> From: Nick Lidakis <nlidakis@verizon.net>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y, ACPI, and uswsusp
>
> Wayne Topa wrote:
> > Nick Lidakis(nlidakis@verizon.net) is reported to have said:
> >
> >> Celejar wrote:
> >>
> >>> In 2.6.18, it's under 'Power Management Options'. Check 'Software
> >>> Suspend'.
> >>>
> >>> Celejar
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> No. It is not. That's why I went to the trouble of downloading 2.6.20
> >> from kernel.org. These are my options in either kernel:
> >>
> >
> > Yes it is if your using a Debian kernel
> >
> > uname -a
> > Linux buddy 2.6.18 #1 SMP Sat Feb 10 20:09:49 EST 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
> >
> > less /boot/config-2.6.18
> > <snip >
> > #
> > # Power management options (ACPI, APM)
> > #
> > CONFIG_PM=y
> > CONFIG_PM_LEGACY=y
> > # CONFIG_PM_DEBUG is not set
> > CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y
> > CONFIG_PM_STD_PARTITION=""
> > CONFIG_SUSPEND_SMP=y
> >
> > #
> > # ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support
> > #
> > CONFIG_ACPI=y
> > CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP=y
> > CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP_PROC_FS=y
> > # CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP_PROC_SLEEP is not set
> > CONFIG_ACPI_AC=m
> > CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY=m
> > CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=m
> > CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO=m
> > CONFIG_ACPI_HOTKEY=m
> > CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=m
> > CONFIG_ACPI_DOCK=m
> > CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=m
> > CONFIG_ACPI_HOTPLUG_CPU=y
> > CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=m
> > CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS=m
> > CONFIG_ACPI_IBM=m
> > CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA=m
> > CONFIG_ACPI_BLACKLIST_YEAR=0
> > # CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG is not set
> > CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y
> > CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y
> > CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y
> > CONFIG_X86_PM_TIMER=y
> > CONFIG_ACPI_CONTAINER=m
> > CONFIG_ACPI_SBS=m
> > <snip>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> I posted clearly that those options were not available and even copied
> over the menuconfig screen in my previous post. So, you telling me that
> the options are there helps me little. What I am asking (and, yes, I did
> try Google) is: I'm I misconfiguring the kernel config in such a way
> that those options don't show up?
>
> Here:
>
> #
> # Power management options (ACPI, APM)
> #
> CONFIG_PM=y
> CONFIG_PM_LEGACY=y
> # CONFIG_PM_DEBUG is not set
>
> #
> # ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support
> #
> CONFIG_ACPI=y
> # CONFIG_ACPI_AC is not set
> # CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY is not set
> CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=y
> # CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO is not set
> # CONFIG_ACPI_HOTKEY is not set
> CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=y
> # CONFIG_ACPI_DOCK is not set
> CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=y
> CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=y
> # CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS is not set
> # CONFIG_ACPI_IBM is not set
> # CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA is not set
> CONFIG_ACPI_BLACKLIST_YEAR=0
> # CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG is not set
> CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y
> CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y
> CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y
> CONFIG_X86_PM_TIMER=y
> # CONFIG_ACPI_CONTAINER is not set
> # CONFIG_ACPI_SBS is not set
>
>
>
> See? No options for software suspend.
> > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 12:14:35 -0400
> From: Max Hyre <max@hyre.net>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock
>
> Michael Pobega wrote:
> > Debian, on the other hand, only gets negative PR.
>
> That's largely true. Every review I've read leaves the
> impression that Debian is problematic, even though the
> review mentions some (often many) good points.
>
> > Outside of the Debian community nobody really gives Debian
> > a chance.
>
> So an interesting question is: How do people start using
> it? ISTM there are three ways:
> a) talking to Debian users,
> b) having it installed on their system by someone
> else, or
> c) using a Debian-based system (Ubuntu, Linspire,
> whatever), and at some point, finding it
> unsatisfying, migrating to the original.
>
> As a result, Debianistas leave for other distributions
> less frequently than folks leave other distributions for
> another (any other). So it seems Debian is, in engineering
> terms, a GNU/Linux-user sink. They may bounce around other
> distributions, but when they get to Debian, they stay here.
>
> > [Reviewers] don't understand the idea of the Debian
> > release schedule; It's aimed at servers, NOT home
> > computers.
>
> This one I disagree with. I've never heard a developer
> say ``I'm building this for server admins.'' It's always
> ``I'm building the best damn' GNU/Linux system there is.'',
> where ``best'' is defined as Free-est and most stable. This
> just happens to result in the distribution most useful for
> servers, but it's not built for them. I run it on my home
> computers, and feel no bias against that use.
>
> IANADBIUWAIWTDP* We shall release no Debian before its
> time.
>
> --
> Best wishes,
>
> Max Hyre
>
>
> * ``I am not a dev, but I'll use "We" as in "We the Debian
> people"'' :-)
>
> > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:59:11 -0500
> From: Kent West <westk@acu.edu>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: /dev/tty perms for xlinks2
>
> Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > Kent West <westk@acu.edu> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> A few days ago xlinks2 was mentioned on this list and I decided to
> >> give it a try.
> >>
> >> When I try to run it from within X as a normal user, no problem.
> >>
> >> When I try to run it outside of X as root, no problem.
> >>
> >> When I try to run it outside of X as a normal user, I get an error
> >> about opening /dev/tty0 because of permission issues.
> >>
> >> westk@canuhold:~$ ls -l /dev/tty0
> >> crw-rw---- 1 root root 4, 0 2007-03-07 10:04 /dev/tty0
> >>
> >> I could change the group to "tty" or something and then add my normal
> >> user into that group, but is there perhaps a
> >> better/safer/more-canonical way?
> >>
> >
> > Interesting. On my system:
> >
> > ls -l /dev/tty2
> > crw------- 1 amp77 tty 4, 2 2007-03-27 23:20 /dev/tty2
> >
> > What are you running (stable, testing, ...?)
> >
>
> Etch
>
> westk@canuhold:~$ ls -l /dev/tty2
> crw------- 1 westk tty 4, 2 2007-03-26 14:13 /dev/tty2
>
> On this box, tty2 is the only file owned by me and the group tty; all
> others are root.root (until you get to the tty[a..z] group, which is
> then root.tty).
>
> --
> Kent
> > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 23:11:16 +0200
> From: Vincent Lefevre <vincent@vinc17.org>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at
> startup)
>
> On 2007-03-26 17:49:38 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > Also, I was unconvinced by the reasoning of several posters that
> > they use fetchmail and have never been bothered by losing email: If
> > I were losing email, how would I know? [...]
>
> If you don't receive anything, this may be an indication. FYI, when
> I tried fetchmail for the first time, I lost all my mail that was
> retrieved by fetchmail. I immediately switched to getmail (though
> it is written in Python) and never went back to fetchmail.
>
> > Anyway, others who were also frightened by the bad things said about
> > fetchmail can try my recipe for moving to getmail but keeping exim,
> > procmail, and spamassassin.
>
> BTW, I also lost mail due to procmail. Twice. This was because of
> typos in my procmailrc, e.g. a missing backslash at the end of a
> line. Though procmail detected a problem with the syntax, it ignored
> the incorrect lines instead of putting the mail back in the queue.
> After the second time, I wrote a small procmailrc checker[*] (based
> on heuristics), automatically called during a "svn commit". I did
> other mistakes, but they were all found by my procmailrc checker.
> Now, I still don't like the way procmail works (in particular, LOG
> is used for two different things -- a really bad design), but I use
> it for "historical reasons".
>
> [*] http://www.vinc17.org/unix/#pmchecker
>
> I also lost mail due to spamassassin (well, I could retrieve it
> in my junk mailbox, hoping I didn't miss any important message),
> because the version in Debian/stable was out-of-date.
>
> --
> Vincent Lefèvre <vincent@vinc17.org> - Web: <http://www.vinc17.org/>
> 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: <http://www.vinc17.org/blog/>
> Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arenaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)
> > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 23:14:13 +0200
> From: David Baron <d_baron@012.net.il>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Apt-listbugs Problems (OK)
>
> > I can get reports for one (count 'em) upgrade at a time. Attempts at more
> > will time out with a failed HTTP Get.
> >
> > Worked last week. What gives?
> Seems to be working now. SIte problem?
> > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:48:05 +0300
> From: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: /dev/tty perms for xlinks2
>
> Kent West <westk@acu.edu> wrote:
>
> > Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > > Kent West <westk@acu.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> A few days ago xlinks2 was mentioned on this list and I decided to
> > >> give it a try.
> > >>
> > >> When I try to run it from within X as a normal user, no problem.
> > >>
> > >> When I try to run it outside of X as root, no problem.
> > >>
> > >> When I try to run it outside of X as a normal user, I get an error
> > >> about opening /dev/tty0 because of permission issues.
> > >>
> > >> westk@canuhold:~$ ls -l /dev/tty0
> > >> crw-rw---- 1 root root 4, 0 2007-03-07 10:04 /dev/tty0
> > >>
> > >> I could change the group to "tty" or something and then add my
> > >> normal user into that group, but is there perhaps a
> > >> better/safer/more-canonical way?
> > >>
> > >
> > > Interesting. On my system:
> > >
> > > ls -l /dev/tty2
> > > crw------- 1 amp77 tty 4, 2 2007-03-27 23:20 /dev/tty2
> > >
> > > What are you running (stable, testing, ...?)
> > >
> >
> > Etch
> >
> > westk@canuhold:~$ ls -l /dev/tty2
> > crw------- 1 westk tty 4, 2 2007-03-26 14:13 /dev/tty2
> >
> > On this box, tty2 is the only file owned by me and the group tty; all
> > others are root.root (until you get to the tty[a..z] group, which is
> > then root.tty).
> >
>
> I only checked tty2 because that's where I'm logged in and xlinks2
> works (no mouse, but still). Or am I missing something? Just for
> completeness:
>
> $ ls -l /dev/tty0
> crw-rw---- 1 amp77 amp77 4, 0 2007-03-27 22:03 /dev/tty0
>
> $ id
> uid=1000(amp77) gid=1000(amp77)
>
groups=20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),1000(amp77)
>
> Regards,
> Andrei
> --
> If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
> (Albert Einstein)
> > Date: 27 Mar 2007 14:14:37 -0700
> From: "Dave Stephenson" <dastephenson232@gmail.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: nVidia MCP55 (was: Slow internet on AMD64 running Etch)
>
> I feel like I am missing something obvious.
>
> here is my interfaces file:
>
>
> # The loopback network interface
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback
>
> # The primary network interface
> #allow-hotplug eth0
> #iface eth0 inet dhcp
>
> auto eth0
>
> #force higher speed in spite of signal peak & dhcp
> #mtu 1500
>
>
> iface eth0 inet dhcp
> pre-up /sbin/ifconfig $IFACE mtu 1500
>
>
> and here is the result of ifconfig:
>
> eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:18:F3:86:8C:92
> inet addr:192.168.0.7 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:
> 255.255.255.0
> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:576 Metric:1
> RX packets:1135 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> TX packets:1112 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
> RX bytes:327004 (319.3 KiB) TX bytes:126844 (123.8 KiB)
> Interrupt:58 Base address:0xe000
>
> I tried moving the auto eth0 line around, but that either did nothing
> or broke the network.
>
> Thanks again,
> Dave
> > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:53:55 +0300
> From: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: nVidia MCP55 (was: Slow internet on AMD64 running Etch)
>
> "Dave Stephenson" <dastephenson232@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I feel like I am missing something obvious.
> >
>
> Maybe a 'post-up' is more useful here. And does interfaces accept
> variables? Maybe $IFACE was meant to be replaced by the relevant
> interface name.
>
> HTH,
> Andrei
> --
> If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
> (Albert Einstein)
> > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 23:54:13 +0200
> From: Jochen Schulz <ml@well-adjusted.de>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Hardware Change .... How to update
>
> Khurram Pirzada:
> >
> > What must I do for my Debian to see new modem and install/use it for
> > 56k connection?
>
> What exactly are you expecting Debian to do? If you are running a stock
> kernel, you probably only need to install the software you want to use
> with the modem and use it. I don't know your hardware, though. It's been
> some time since I had anything to do with modems. :)
>
> J.
> --
> Thy lyrics in pop songs seem to describe my life uncannily accurately.
> [Agree] [Disagree]
> <http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html>
> > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 01:49:47 +0300
> From: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: nVidia MCP55 (was: Slow internet on AMD64 running Etch)
>
> "Dave Stephenson" <dastephenson232@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 27, 4:00 pm, Andrei Popescu <andreimpope...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > "Dave Stephenson" <dastephenson...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I feel like I am missing something obvious.
> > >
> > > Maybe a 'post-up' is more useful here. And does interfaces accept
> > > variables? Maybe $IFACE was meant to be replaced by the relevant
> > > interface name.
> >
> > post-up works!
> >
> > I wonder why mahy other sources sugested pre-up, Has something
> > changed?
>
> I only thought if DHCP is the culprit than it would make sense to
> change the MTU *after* you get the settings from the server.
>
> Regards,
> Andrei
> --
> If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
> (Albert Einstein)
> > Date: 27 Mar 2007 15:12:36 -0700
> From: "Dave Stephenson" <dastephenson232@gmail.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: nVidia MCP55 (was: Slow internet on AMD64 running Etch)
>
> On Mar 27, 4:00 pm, Andrei Popescu <andreimpope...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > "Dave Stephenson" <dastephenson...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I feel like I am missing something obvious.
> >
> > Maybe a 'post-up' is more useful here. And does interfaces accept
> > variables? Maybe $IFACE was meant to be replaced by the relevant
> > interface name.
>
> post-up works!
>
> I wonder why mahy other sources sugested pre-up, Has something
> changed?
>
> Thanks again,
> Dave
> > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 19:06:03 -0400
> From: Michael Pobega <pobega@gmail.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 12:14:35PM -0400, Max Hyre wrote:
> > Michael Pobega wrote:
> >
> > > [Reviewers] don't understand the idea of the Debian
> > > release schedule; It's aimed at servers, NOT home
> > > computers.
> >
> > This one I disagree with. I've never heard a developer
> > say ``I'm building this for server admins.'' It's always
> > ``I'm building the best damn' GNU/Linux system there is.'',
> > where ``best'' is defined as Free-est and most stable. This
> > just happens to result in the distribution most useful for
> > servers, but it's not built for them. I run it on my home
> > computers, and feel no bias against that use.
> >
> > IANADBIUWAIWTDP* We shall release no Debian before its
> > time.
> >
>
> Debian Stable IS aimed for servers and not home computers. What I
> meant by what I said is that the reviews always aim themselves at
> Debian Stable, which is, let's call it, the "server branch" of
> Debian's three branches.
>
> But when people review Debian they compare Debian Stable against
> Ubuntu 6.10 (Or the upcoming 7.04, which isn't even OUT yet) and
> always say how Debian is an outdated distro. They fail to understand
> the Debian release cycle, and the way packages make their way through
> the three (Four if you count experimental) branches of Debian.
>
> In other words: Reviewers compare Debian stable against Ubuntu's beta
> releases, which is an unfair comparison.
> > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:47:30 -0500
> From: Owen Heisler <owenh000@gmail.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at
> startup)
>
> On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 18:15 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > Owen Heisler <owenh000@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2007-03-27 at 11:06 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > > > Paul Stolp <paulywall@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I would think that this would then use exim's spam and
> > > > > virus checking (I actually don't have that going
> > > > > through exim.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps I'm missing the point ... can spam and viruses
> > > > > be rejected at SMTP time with fetchmail?
> > > >
> > > > SMTP? fetchmail is using POP3 to retrieve mails and rejection
> > > > by exim before receiving them is pretty pointless.
> > >
> > > How is it pointless if you want your incoming mail (via getmail)
> > > scanned for viruses/spam along with any other mail received (via
> > > SMTP) by the system?
> >
> > Sorry, it does make sense in an environment where you receive mail via
> > SMTP. But for the ones received via POP3 it's too late because they are
> > already on your system and you don't get to reject them before
> > receiving. This is what I meant.
>
> The point you've been trying to make all through this thread is I think
> starting to become clear to me (everyone cheer now), because I didn't
> realize think about mail being scanned for spam before a full message is
> received. Is it true that in the case of getmail (POP3) sending a
> (full) message to the recipient via sendmail, a spam checker will not do
> anything? (If you know of any good general/overall mail docs...)
> > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 02:08:55 +0300
> From: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: getmail configuration (How to run fetchmail as daemon at
> startup)
>
> Owen Heisler <owenh000@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The point you've been trying to make all through this thread is I
> > think starting to become clear to me (everyone cheer now), because I
> > didn't realize think about mail being scanned for spam before a full
> > message is received. Is it true that in the case of getmail (POP3)
> > sending a (full) message to the recipient via sendmail, a spam
> > checker will not do anything? (If you know of any good
> > general/overall mail docs...)
>
> I don't think I understand what you mean. Here is how I see it:
>
> 1. You receive mail via SMTP. You get the chance to reject the mail
> before getting it on your system so you can save some bandwidth
>
> 2. You receive mail via POP3/IMAP. Unless you use some programs
> like mailfilter (suggested elsewhere in this thread) you already have
> the spam on your system so it doesn't matter where you do the filtering
> (getmail, MTA, MDA, MUA, ...). My choice would be in getmail or MDA
> (maildrop).
>
> However, in a *mixed* environment it makes sense to implement the
> filtering once (MTA for the added benefit on point 1.) and use the same
> for getmail.
>
> What I don't think is optimal is to redirect *all* your mails through an
> MTA like exim/postfix/... just to do some filtering. Getmail can do
> this on its own just fine (well not the actual filtering, but then
> neither does exim/postfix), no need for the added complexity.
>
> Regards,
> Andrei
> --
> If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
> (Albert Einstein)
> > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 22:31:23 GMT
> From: Marco De Vitis <starless@spin.it>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Looking for a RTSP proxy
>
> Hi,
> I need to install a RTSP proxy on a Debian Sarge machine (but I could
> have an Etch one available, too), to allow access to rtsp:// RealVideo
> content from Windows clients in a LAN where web access happens through
> Squid on that same Sarge machine.
>
> The only solution, by searching on Google, seems to be
> http://rtspproxy.berlios.de/
> But I cannot make it work on Debian, neither Sarge, nor Etch. Not even
> trying to build it from source (you can read the details of my tries
> here: http://www.nabble.com/Using-rtspproxy-on-Debian-p9471009.html ).
>
> Does anyone know if a RTSP proxy is readily available for Debian, or how
> to work around the problems I encountered when trying rtspproxy?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Ciao,
> Marco.
> > Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 19:37:18 -0400
> From: Roberto C. Sánchez <roberto@connexer.com>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: "I do consider Ubuntu to be Debian" , Ian Murdock
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 07:06:03PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote:
> >
> > In other words: Reviewers compare Debian stable against Ubuntu's beta
> > releases, which is an unfair comparison.
> >
> That sort of thing often makes me think that the reviewers have some
> sort of axe to grind against Debian.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Roberto
>
> --
> Roberto C. Sánchez
> http://people.connexer.com/~roberto
> http://www.connexer.com
>
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